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General Blue Umbrella

@WR, UCorps makes up 90% of what we know about BU. It establishes they are an evil group led by someone with ties to Wesker and the events of RE4. My entire argument rests on that game and supporting evidence from RE7 itself.


The correlation chart never sat right with me, as it was way too vague. If you think i'm lying, good for you, but I know what I think. Read through my past posts, though, and you will notice that I barely ever brought it up.


Batman never claimed this "destroyed" anything either. The sudden jumping to irational conclusions to stir up drama gets really old.
 
There's another reference to 技術協力 (technical assistance) but with the old Biohaze forum gone I can't trace my steps. Don't have the book to check.

You’re guys entire theory was destroyed in one sentence.
Don't see how since it was never a big deal and I've questioned the reliability of the guide since Not A Hero. The idea of Blue Umbrella being the rival company came from UC first and foremost, and that remains the crux of the theory.

(you know who else)
Is there a need for the passive-aggressiveness?
 
This is seriously getting old.
Agreed.

I’m not posting in this thread anymore.
If all your going to do is try and shoot things down indiscriminately, without actually thinking about your argument before posting, that's probably for the best.

for over a year and a half now
I've only been around here since July of last year. I can count the number of times I "vigorously referenced the chart" on one hand. UCorps is what I have referenced dozens of times.
 
after reading the entire post,reading files and playing all games, just to get the BU full picture: HCF provided technical assist to the Connections DOESN’T mean they became BU. { HCF are military unit as was confimed by CV development team}.nor does Umbrella Corps game hints at them being RO. Kawata said BU are consisted of former Umbrella employees. if Capcom are playing a slow game starting with RE7, they would have stated “ more than old Umbrella involved” . and considering the writers changes with every game, I doubt they will consider bringing back “ the executive” from UC game. the whole BU story is unreleated to Wesker’s or RO as far as RE7 story is concerned.
H.C.F. refers to the rival company in general.


Umbrella Corps heavily hints at Blue Umbrella being the rival company. The Samurai Edge they use is Wesker's, and Wesker himself is featured in the game as "The Legendary Executive." It was indeed formed by former Umbrella employees, but that doesn't mean it can't be the rival company. It's specifically stated that the new Umbrella is the old Umbrella but with new management. That new management is likely the rival company's top brass. The old Umbrella researchers do not recognize "The Legendary Executive."


The PMC angle was also Wesker's vision for the company.
 
I stand by my earlier statement:

BU being the Rival Org? Likely. BU being evil? Certain. The connections to Wesker are also certain, who just so happened to have planned out something identical prior to RE5. That being a coincidence is beyond comprehension, especially with the 2007 date.
Ignoring that is just denial at this point, as the evidence isn't exactly vague.
 
The myth about the technical assistance has poured cold water on the link because that was the 'proof' at the end of day. It was proof because it was impossible for Umbrella formed in 2007 to provide technical assistance to The Connections in 2000. But sadly that link doesn't seem to exist at all. The correlation chart is literally the only reference to Umbrella in the entire book. They don't even have a glossary entry.


the game itself will never occupy any official timeline but all the stuff in the background can be true
That's what Capcom itself thinks too
Sounds pretty much what I have being saying all along. The basic premise of this game remains canon but the specific elements are not. Of course I count Wesker's voice in that too.


I really enjoy The Experiment and the elements it introduces, but it seems hard to suggest these concrete, dated events will never occupy any official timeline if they are still to be considered canon.
 
But having said all that, for me the reintroduction of Umbrella in this incarnation is one of the very worst things the series has done story wise. Yes it was once a plot point involving Wesker, but that story was told and concluded in a different and satisfying way in RE5 and it was all explained why the resurrection of Umbrella never came to pass. Umbrella Corps and 7 should have focused front and centre on the rival company itself by formally introducing them for the first time and explaining their background as a way of really establishing a new nucleus that could bind together the series from old storylines and also providing something new for the future. Everything would still be the same as it is, but it removes Umbrella which just really wasn't needed and plainly done for fan service and to scratch that nostalgia itch. What is the point of bringing back Umbrella only to reveal shock horror plot twist that they are just going to be evil all over again? It's a soft reboot and completely undermines what came before. Capcom have sacrificed story integrity for the sake of familiarity with this one, and I'm not a fan. You only have to glance at pretty much any reddit discussion or forum to see that is a majority opinion I'm sure.


The Neo-Umbrella thing is a factor, but the key point is the complete undermining of everything that came before in the core series that was all about the characters taking on and bringing down Umbrella. To repeat that now is simply pointless considering how invested people were in the series storyline to begin with. It may be easy to gloss over for newer fans who were introduced to the series from RE4 onwards when Umbrella were already long gone, but for those of us who were there at the start it is all a bit of a slap in the face. And what makes it all the more frustrating is because it could have been so easily avoidable. I could somewhat forgive if it was necessary or inevitable that Umbrella had to return for a narrative purpose - but that story had already been concluded. And all the reasons why you like it would still all be there if this was simply the original rival company and not the rival company hiding behind Blue Umbrella. But Umbrella was reintroduced, not out of necessity or a narrative benefit, but for that sense of familiarity and desperation that Capcom so craved to get the fanbase back on side. It's as pointless as Wesker's inclusion in Umbrella Corps - it didn't need to be there but was done solely for the purpose of nostalgia and to get people talking rather than having any narrative benefit. Ada Wong and the rival company need to be the focus because they are the only long-standing unanswered plot threads left, but Capcom choose to still focus on Umbrella and Wesker because that's where the interest lies for the vast majority. Interest = dollar signs.
People claiming the plot is lost is nothing new sure, but writing a bad story is one thing, doing something for just for the sake of familiarity or nostalgia is quite different.


While I strongly agreed with what you was saying about how the Rival Org has now come full circle however I have to also strongly agree with Batman’s views on the use of the Umbrella name being completely pointless and a desperate way to stay relevant. It could have just as easily have been a new name and still had exactly the same weight to it; I guarantee I would have liked it more if this was the case. My other problem with this angle is why the Wesker relevance? Why does it have to be him who created the Anti-Bow weapons? Surely this whole arch is as good as chance as any to establish a NEW organisation and a NEW villain. But no let’s bring back Umbrella and bring back Wesker, neither of which works in the slightest because Umbrella is essentially the Nazi’s to the planet. Using their name for your company is about the dumbest damn thing Capcom could possibly do. It’s like using Charles Manson as the name for a brand of nappies. It’s so bad it’s laughable. Then there is Wesker who they are yet again wasting their time establishing a dead character. I honestly don’t know what would annoy me more, if they use his name and he stays dead and nothing comes of it or if they bring him back from the dead by some questionable nonsense, either way it’s a lose/lose.
One last point I wanted to bring up here and this is where I am hoping people can correct me if wrong but why does the Rival Org HAVE to be Blue Umbrella? Why can’t it be Tricell, The Family, a combination or just a new org? So I heard that the confirmation comes from Blue Umbrella providing assistance to The Connections according to the Kaitai guide, which the game states that the HCF also did. So people put 2 and 2 together and say it’s the same thing. Is it not possible that both the HCF and Blue Umbrella provided assistance to The Connections as separate organisations? I can understand that the evidence there might suggest Blue Umbrella but it is not exactly concrete is it. If Resident Evil 5 played out without mentioning Tricell I bet everyone would be screaming Rival Org due to Wesker’s involvement there too. Everyone seemed convinced that NAH was going to provide us with all the answers but look how that turned out. I prefer to keep an open mind until it’s clearly in black and white which I am not seeing right now.
Well Jake knew who his father was by name and he was just a merc with no affiliation to any organisations that would be privy to top secret information. Also it doesn’t matter how good their intentions maybe using the name is just an insane business choice. They can use former Umbrella employee’s that’s fine but just use a different name. Let’s say it is the Rival Org and their intentions aren’t good, why would you bring that immediate heat down upon yourself from day one? What good can come from have the public eye saying “Really Umbrella? I want to know exactly what they are up to.” Whereas if they called themselves Joe Blogs Pharmaceuticals nobody would know any different. If a company opened its doors tomorrow named Nazi Nail Vanish, the shit would hit the fan. Social media would implode, who in their right mind would work with those people? Like I said it’s just bad for business.


Eh? No, none of the existing plotline we used to talk about works anymore.
BU went public in 2007 yet their ‘resurrection is at hand’ in 2015/2016?
Their still a mysterious organization in 2014 according to Heavenly Island?
I used to the think Albert’s voice in the Mulitplayer meant something and even took the manga seriously.
I thought it would all tie in beautifully with UC as Albert would have premonitions about his return, it was wonderfully written.
Basically if they were funded in 2007 but hadn’t gone public for another 10 years it would’ve been alright.
But there’s nothing suggesting they didn’t.
I mean we now know they weren’t doing CQBZ until 2011 but rather going on several missions with B.S.A.A. is the most likely and reasonable answer.
There’s something else that bothers me,
before UC’s release Kawata said Umbrella was still gone but now this quote doesn’t hold up because we don’t know if its Chief Executives were replaced by the top brass of Wesker’s Organization.
furthermore Blue Umbrella being a nickname for the reborn Umbrella Corporation doesn‘t make sense as it already went public in 2007 as a PMC.
therefore Red Umbrella is not needed for a resurrection as again, the resurrection already took place in 2007.
we can come to the conclusion then that the Red is most likely a branch of special elite force and a successor to the U.B.C.S. just as 3A7 is a successor to Hunk.
they sound more like the true PMC of the company.
They are the elite unit, the ’Umbrella Corps.’
I think now the weapons are named after Wesker purely because they were from his research and designs and to fool the world (of course they are evil) that naming technology to do good after a man that did so much evil is another way of atonement, same reason why they named themselves ’Umbrella’ again.
something else is very odd here, in Umbrella Corps Albert‘s custom model is referred to as “Samurai Edge“ but instead the standard model ”Samurai Edge SP” ended up being modified to the Albert-01 and in Not A Hero being used by Chris. Perhaps Wesker’s blueprints were getting dated.
in a nutshell, nothing of this company stands out. all the companies in Umbrella Corps had special units.
big deal.
in Heavenly Island Sheng Ya had deployed their elite force.
the patches in the game are special force units and Japanese localization just has the company names.
its all very generic I truly think now, this BU is just another company tbh and no big behind the scenes Albert reveal or even Wesker fanatic, just doesn’t hold up much anymore.
there’s abosoutely no reason why the company had to be named Umbrella or why it had to be Chris, its just a soft reboot and desparation for familiarity on Capcom’s part.


BU going public in 2007 is what did it for me.
At the time Chris and Sheva were running around in Africa Umbrella had already been present for two years.
They were also already public 5 years when Carla tried to use their name to strike fear to the public as well.
These types of plotholes hurt the Wesker theories.
I'm just gonna put this here.




“Yes, because if a notoriously evil and hated group just switched their logo 45 degrees, turned it pink or white, and started handing out confectioneries and free kittens, we’d all just say “Oh, those Neo KKK members, they’re so nice and friendly now! That totally makes me forget about all of the lynchings they did and them burning black churches down not that long ago!” and start shaking hands with them.

No. The world doesn’t work like that and neither should the RE universe. You think that if Merah Biji were still alive she would have been fine and dandy with a new Umbrella existing when the original Umbrella was responsible for Raccoon City, which killed her parents? You think Tyler Howard would be alright with a new Umbrella Corporation kicking around when he had to put his own crazy and delusional father down because of what Umbrella did to his family? Do you think that Sherry Birkin would put up with a new Umbrella Corporation when Umbrella was responsible for making the majority of her life a living hell and turning her into what many would call a freak of nature? None of the characters/protagonists in the series would allow that to stand, much less the global population of this universe, whose stories we don’t know and who some have gone through the same thing.

It’s not like we had an entire game where there was a terrorist group calling itself Umbrella which caused tremendous amounts of death and suffering not less than 5 years ago around the world, which had a file detailing how pissed off and threatened people were about them using that name and insignia (
http://projectumbrella.net/articles/Neo-Umbrella-File ).

If any of the characters were acting with a single brain cell, there would not nor ever would be, a new Umbrella in the public eye as a legit public organisation. Natch. Chris, Claire, Jill, Leon, and any others now at the top of the counter bioterrorism food chain would smack that “idea” so far and so fast down it would hit the iron core of the Earth.

Fanfiction level writing indeed, pink herb. When the only way for a story or plot to even function is to make the rest of the cast rock stupid when in every other occasion they would never let said plot come to pass happens, that’s the hallmark of bad writing. It’s what TvTropes refers to as an “Idiot Plot”. And this is more than likely what the next story arc for the series may be basing itself as its foundation.

The ironic thing is is that this whole problem could have been avoided if they just had called it something else and made the insignia something else. In the story, if say, BU was instead PS Limited and were being “nice” and “friendly” and yadda yadda, no one would care or bat an eye. That would be all they needed to do.”
 
The myth about the technical assistance has poured cold water on the link because that was the 'proof' at the end of day. It was proof because it was impossible for Umbrella formed in 2007 to provide technical assistance to The Connections in 2000. But sadly that link doesn't seem to exist at all. The correlation chart is literally the only reference to Umbrella in the entire book. They don't even have a glossary entry.

Yet that link was always dubious at best. The entire premise of UCorps is BU's illegal activities and Wesker's involvement with them. That alone is a valid link.

Also, just when I thought people got over the problems with BU, someone returns and stirs the pot with more rantings. If you don't have anything nice (or new, productive, etc) to say, don't say anything. Especially when it's literally copy/paste.
 
Just pointing out the many shared opinions on this plot point. And it ain't "nonsensical ramblings" when there's actual arguments to be had and made about the story and the writing involved.


You want something new from me on this? The very fact that this new Umbrella exists as a public entity before 2014 or 2017 screws up the timeline and continuity undoubtedly. Are we really supposed to believe that Wesker, Chris, Leon, and all the other characters just didn't care about a new Umbrella? At all? That no one, in the slightest, felt it pertinent to bring this up? Why was Neo Umbrella such a big deal in 6 if there was already a public Umbrella that no cared about? Or at least until 7 pulled it out of its rectum into existence, and now suddenly people like the BSAA care. That Chris Redfield now cares and makes objections that he should have had a decade ago. This is the worst kind of retcon there is.


And don't you dare try to say "It's just being planned out, they'll write something to make them acknowledge it in a future game! That will make everything better!" Well they needed to have something like this in the other games. When they were made. You can't just crowbar in huge plot changing things like this into the story and without consequence. That's the exact same thing that people rightfully get on 4's case about. For chucking an entire games long premise into the gutter. It wasn't a good or well planned/written out thing then and it ain't now with them doing the same thing over again. And that's not even touching how pointless this whole thing now is now that it's likely that this BU isn't even the Rival Company at all. Capcom screwed up their own story, their own characters, undermined over a decade of storytelling and numerous games/plays/mangas/movies and so on for attention and money.


Besides didn't you make this very thread topic on the old site? I don't think any room to judge here on "copy and pasting".
 
It got so bad at the old site, I'd show up just to see walls of text (all from you) about how terrible everything is. and whenever i'd patiently respond, you just ignore me and repeat or disapear.


I wrote this thread to spread information, and a lot of great conversations with new viewpoints and constructive arguments have taken place here. Others here like the Batman and BSAArklay have made the same points as you, but have actually bothered to read and acknowledge opposing viewpoints.


No need to "point out" something established and run into the ground countless times before here. Why continue complaining when it irks you so? It's fictional entertainment, and i'll never understand this nihlistic attitude from people over something that's supposed to be fun.
 
Multiple resurrections are mentioned in UCorps. There is context behind statements in the game which we aren't privy to, because the developers wanted mystery.

Probably not the same Wesker, no. But Wesker in some form. Whether it's the original, or a clone, or an imposter, or a superfan, etc.

Wesker himself is former Umbrella. He wanted to revive Umbrella, and made an unknown deal with the U.S. Government which greenlit Umbrella's revival. We learn in UCorps that Umbrella is still engaged in the sale of B.O.W.'s while supplying the BSAA with anti-B.O.W. weapons. This was the original Umbrella's business tactic too, the new company has simply dropped all pretense and is now strictly military and so purpose-built for the age of bioterrorism that it's hard to not see it as being some spontaneous show of charity with no darkside--- despite UCorps firmly putting that notion to rest.

The biggest issue at the moment that trips everybody up and leads to all these complaints about how they've ruined the story is simply that we are missing a lot of context, because they are obviously building up this plot in piecemeal. There is no retcon, yet. Being formed in 2007 doesn't mean they were active like they are in 2017--- a lot happened in those 10 years and thus far none of it involved Umbrella.
 
"The Legendary Executive" is hinted to be Wesker. This same character is voiced by D.C. Douglas and refers to his resurrection, rumors of his demise, etc. And he was involved in the events of BIO4, and Wesker's organization (the rival company) was referred to as "The 3rd Organization" during that incident as the only party involved besides the Los Iluminados and US Government.


THE EXECUTIVE
May 23, 2012
Abraham Jackson
The executive is inspecting the experiment on the side. The man is unusually interested in this village. He talks as though he was involved in the incident. Who on earth is this guy?
The executive has requested top-secret data in situations with the mutated Ganado. To make matters worse, we have less stockpiles and have to reduce ammo.
The top brass have promised to elevate the experiment. At the same time, that man himself is legendary. He made it quite clear that he's actually this experiment's proprietor. Getting in this guy's good books will be a shortcut to success.

Now it is of course quite possible that it's not him at all in any form. However, that is the implication they are going for. Whether or not it's misdirection or a red herring etc is unknown. But the fact that they are deliberately tying Wesker to Blue Umbrella indicates a high probability of the rival company being involved.


Anyway here's an image of the Umbrella Arsenal System:

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"The Legendary Executive" is hinted to be Wesker. This same character is voiced by D.C. Douglas and refers to his resurrection, rumors of his demise, etc. And he was involved in the events of BIO4, and Wesker's organization (the rival company) was referred to as "The 3rd Organization" during that incident as the only party involved besides the Los Iluminados and US Government.

Just to shed a bit more light on this.


In the Bio 4 guidebook Wesker has a timeline of his employment history which starts with Umbrella, S.T.A.R.S. then in 1998 it shifts to '3rd Organization' which definitely tells us its the Rival Company.


Also as we can see in the Bitores Mendez notes:


VILLAGE CHIEF'S NOTE

At Lord Saddler's order we've imprisoned the American agent and kept him alive, but I can't guess his true intention. I thought he should at least be imprisoned somewhere separate from Luis, but...

Although I don't think Luis would trust someone he first met, supposing the two of them join forces it would become a bit of a troublesome situation. If a third organization is operating, they couldn't overlook this opportunity.

But Lord Saddler is showing such an opportunity on purpose trying to expose them. There's an outside chance that if that organization's already crawled inside, it's possible our conventional plan may not only come to nothing, but the plan itself may be taken over.

Now I think he's daring to take a risk and smoke them out intending to prevent their sinister scheme. But we don't have any other choice but to trust Lord Saddler...



as well as:


WOMAN OF THE THIRD ORGANIZATION

We've confirmed a woman believed to be of a third organization within the castle. It seems this woman guided Luis.

Just before the agent arrived, the egg we injected into Luis was removed before hatching and information was passed to the United States. This woman must have contrived all of it.

Since this woman's objective is the "sample", we need to secure her before she contacts Luis. However, capture her in a state where she can speak, we also need to hear about the third organization from this woman.

By the way, since we'll hear about the third organization from this woman directly, Luis will no longer be necessary. After recovering the "sample", deal with him.



and:


LUIS AND THE THIRD ORGANIZATION

Luis' whereabouts are still unclear. He's probably using a special route his grandfather taught him, who was a hunter when he still lived in this land.

The thing he stole is surely hidden somewhere in the woods. If his grandfather were still alive we could've used him to locate it immediately, but...

However, how did Luis notice the egg injected into him? Furthermore, he already removed it with the drug before it hatched...

He stole it as well and escaped before that American agent arrived, and doesn't seem to have done it alone. Suitably, it's natural to think that a third organization other than ourselves or the United States are intervening in this.

In order to clarify this problem, we must catch Luis once again and wait for the effect of the drug still in his body to disappear, and inject him with a new egg. Then those pulling strings in the background should chirp. Those who interfere with our plan will pay the price.


"SAMPLE" RECOVERY COMPLETE

Although I issued another notice, Luis was executed at the hands of Lord Saddler and our order was able to safely recover the "sample." I wanted to resolve the situation by myself in this castle without troubling Lord Saddler, but above all I'm pleased that the "sample" has now safely returned.

It must be impossible for the third organization's woman to foolishly interfere in this now. It's a crying shame that if Luis had just simply accepted becoming our associate, he could've been useful in the wonderful world our order will rule.

Regarding the two Americans, I received word from Lord Saddler that he'll entrust everything about them to me. To repay his trust, we will capture Ashley at any cost and send her to Lord Saddler's location.


and so on.


I don't think there is any dispute of whether the 3rd Organization is the Rival Company.

H.C.F. is just the Special Forces of this company but because the company name was never revealed in any materials Capcom just references it with that title now.


Here is some more files from Ada from Separate Ways:



REPORT #1

The true purpose I must accomplish. I was attached to this mission as a stepping stone to that. My true intentions must not be realized by anyone until after it's done. It's no use to merely hide in the background. It'll be necessary to appear before them occasionally and give guidance.

First, I want to sort the stage background. The Los Illuminados cult led by Osmund Saddler have released the seal from the Plaga parasite. I intend to discuss Saddler's "secret art" and the information that we, the "organization", have obtained at this stage.

The feudal lords of the Salazar family are said to have used a special ability from generation to generation to control the Plaga. We've hypothesized that this may be a special communication method via sound or sound waves. "Commands" are conveyed in a range only the parasites can detect in order to manipulate them at will. In a nutshell, it's the principle of a dog whistle.

This theory was inferred from the fact that an organ which seemed to sense sounds was ascertained from tissue of the parasite that we initially obtained. All the cult's leaders once carried a cane for special religious services. Is there some sort of trick to this or is there vocalization using a particular range? There's still no conclusive evidence for this hypothesis, so it doesn't go beyond the realm of speculation.

Including those verifications, the "Plaga sample acquisition" is the matter which takes first priority above all else in this mission. It's also a proof of trust I must fulfill for the "organization." The pieces are beginning to move and the countdown has begun. There's no turning back now.

REPORT #2

In this incident with various entanglements, he... Luis Sera, is relatively simple. His affiliation with any organization can't be confirmed, and I've concluded that he's acting on his individual will. It was I who recommended him to the "organization" as a key person in this mission. That's because I liked his "enthusiasm", which oozes with humanity.

It was fortunate that I was able to accidentally intercept his e-mail for help from a research facility.

For some reason, he didn't seem to trust the police and the e-mail was sent to a friend from his college days. It seems he didn't know his friend was already dead; anyway, that's how I was able to plan contact with him.

Between his Plaga research, he seems to have advanced his own investigation about the cult's background. Some of that was also written in the e-mail; his sharp insight pressed for the truth in all aspects. This observational eye was probably the ability Saddler hired him for. However, his ability has gotten too deep into the cult and aroused Saddler's suspicion.

When I told him of my true nature, he requested to be taken into protective custody. "I have no love for the Plaga or the cult, I just want to get away somewhere safe and return to a quiet life..." As collateral, I ordered him to steal a "dominant species Plaga sample" for evidence.

It also seems he's one of the few people to have somehow gained Saddler's trust. I planned contact and expected it'd be relatively easy to obtain the sample. However, the cult won't take kindly to his escape. I'll have to guide things myself, to some extent.

REPORT #3

Jack Krauser... the "organization" conducted thorough background checks on this man.
His personality and capabilities in carrying out military operations were checked for no issues. If he merely possessed halfway skills, he would jeopardize the rest of us.

In conclusion, he's an excellent mercenary. He serves no more nor less as long as sufficient "compensation" is promised. I understand his behavior patterns temporarily showed threatening movement to some extent.

Wesker hands down all instructions for this operation directly. It was also Wesker who ordered Krauser to infiltrate the cult as a spy in order to obtain the "sample", and also opted for a united front with me. This was probably for the implication of monitoring each other.

Krauser's already in the cult and has probably fallen to the charm of the Plaga and its symbol of "power." As a result, I also predict he'll become a presence which may soon harm us, the "organization." But in a sense, this may be a necessary development. I'm using him to play the essential role of "disrupting the stage."

Since the stage itself is destined to be destroyed and erased sooner or later... But unluckily for him, that must be hidden from him in order to achieve my objective and keep things going as they are.


REPORT #5

I was somehow able to patch up the small rip. I think the mission can be called a success. I was able to safely achieve my original objective of acquiring the sample. I sent Wesker a different present. As per the order of the "organization." Feigning collusion with him was quite thrilling too.

Albert Wesker... Wonder what his next move will be. I feel like I've merely just gotten a taste through this mission. To him, Umbrella was once a symbol of power which could be used to support and realize one's ambitions. However, the "umbrella" was torn and that fantasy was shattered.

Having lost protection, those behind the black intrigue have scattered and now squirm in their quest for a new "umbrella." They hate the light of the sun. As it makes them conscious of their own repulsiveness. Wesker intends to raise a new larger and stronger "umbrella."

The giant pharmaceutical company "S" supplies drugs to public medical institutions around the world. Evidence has confirmed that Wesker contacted them after Umbrella's collapse. His next "starting point" will probably be there. The "organization" must observe carefully.

But Wesker's not stupid. He knows exactly what I and the "organization" are thinking.
Although we're both swimming against each other, we're meant to swim together. At the moment, there's still some pleasant leeway. I've safely taken one step forward to my true purpose. There's one thing I can say with certainty... The battle's not over yet.



Their also referred to as the Agency in BIO 2 by Annette Birkin.




THEY PLAY SUCH A BIG ROLE BEHIND THE SCENES AS BEING UMBRELLA'S MAIN RIVAL IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE SERIES:

*they hired Ada Wong to infiltrate the Spencer mansion and get John Clemens to fall in love with her so that she could smuggle out a sample of the T-Virus.

*they used data given to them by Wesker after the mansion incident to sabotage the Hunter B.O.W. program and ended up creating a more superior one (as well as the Sweeper subspecies) which led to Umbrella scrapping the Hunter project and creating the failed Anubis as we never saw it again.

*the Hunter surveillance drones they created were a part of their outstanding technology that they provided for Krauser as well that he used in his fight against Leon.

*they then hired Wesker to work alongside Ada to recover a sample of G.

*Wesker had a secret objective of saving Birkin and recruiting him into the company.

*they acquired data on the Nemesis T-Type from Raccoon City.

*they had a spy on Rockfort Island for 3 months that exposed Alexia.

*they were at one time the only organization to have possession of T-Veronica thus leading to the creation of the Jabberwock S3.

*they made alliances with Javier and tried to get him on board (through Wesker) to jump ship from Umbrella and to join them.

*they used Krauser as a mercenary to do contract work for them.

*they hired a spy to work for them in the Caucasus Mountains for them.

*the Russian base that Chris and Jill invaded in Umbrella's End was partially funded by them which is very interesting as it tells us they were a 'legitimate public' organization.

*their money provided weapons, vehicles and equipment for the Umbrella's End mission which in turn allowed them to bug all the items for their surveillance devices so that they could listen into everything.

*this was a double kill as they were helping finish off Umbrella while at the same time trying to gather as much data as possible from them since Wesker never provided the U.M.F.-013 to them.





*so...their first big downfall came when Wesker stole the U.M.F. -013 and used it for himself instead of providing it to them.*



this is when Ada Wong does her part to watch him in RE 4 under their orders as they no longer trust him.


*their second big downfall came from Wesker using up their resources to find Spencer:



NO. 12 ALBERT WESKER


The Mansion Incident, the tragic incident in Raccoon City, the incident in the Umbrella Antarctic Laboratory beginning from Rockfort Island, the incident in the Russian Caucasus Laboratory, and the kidnapping of the U.S. President's daughter.

A man is confirmed to have affected the limelight and background in all these cases. That is Albert Wesker. It's not an exaggeration to say that this incident was sparked by his actions.

Up to this point Wesker had obtained many viruses and organisms, including the t-Virus, G-Virus, t-Veronica and the Plaga. Armed with these, he rose within Umbrella's rival company and obtained status, wealth and honor. Materially he was contented.

But a discomfort, which had always been there, continued to exist inside him. It was Umbrella founder Oswell E. Spencer.

For a long time Wesker could not fathom Spencer's true goal. He had said that his superfluous capital investment into Bio Organic Weapons (B.O.W.) was abnormal. Originally the merit of a biological weapon was that it could be developed cheaply. Thinking about combined use with a normal weapon system, extreme B.O.W. development was thus far unnecessary. Why did he persist in B.O.W.'s? In order to search for the answer, Wesker placed himself in the Umbrella Intelligence Division.

The question came to flare up in his head again. To answer the question, Wesker searched for Spencer's whereabouts. However after Umbrella's collapse Spencer had disappeared from the limelight and gone missing. He used everything he had. Using all of his organization's power and money as well as time, Wesker finally discovered Spencer's location.

On an early autumn night of ceaseless thunder, Wesker visited Spencer in an old European castle. When he caught sight of Wesker, Spencer considered whether to be surprised and shone a dark joy underneath his shriveled eye sockets.

"You've returned..."

Spencer's laugh was mixed with dry coughs.

Again, Wesker was unable to measure this old man's true intentions. He'd experienced this feeling many times since the time he was in Umbrella. A sticky presence emanated heavily from the old man, whose feeble body was like a withered branch. The power of an absolute and engulfing goal had danced in the palm of his hand. This was the true nature of his biggest discomfort, the nemesis he had irritated himself with. Spencer began to talk as if he had detected it inside him.

Bio Organic Weapons development was only a means for allowing him to accomplish his true goal. His true goal was the forced evolution of the human race by means of a virus. The end of Homo sapiens who had lasted 200,000 years, and the birth of a neogenetic humanity. His true goal was to create a Utopia by and with the new humanity, and to become a god there.

There were three things he required to realize this distorted ideal.

Firstly, the "Progenitor Virus." Without the Progenitor Virus, his Utopian creation was merely a dream for him. The existence of the Progenitor Virus dragged that dream into the real world.

Secondly, "Umbrella." Development for weapons application purposes was perfect to advance Progenitor Virus research without anyone realizing his true intentions. Therefore, the profits obtained by Umbrella were merely secondary for him.

And the third was "Wesker." The Utopia envisioned by Spencer. The people living there had to be ideal humans. Then what was an ideal human?

A nascent humanity whose evolution was prompted by the Progenitor Virus. That was the main premise, of course. However, what happens if a person whose evolution is prompted is a man who doesn't comply with Spencer's own will?

Even if they evolved and obtained superhuman bodies and intelligence, the person's knowledge, moral values and common sense wouldn't change. Suppose lazy and incompetent people were chosen as reborn humans, what would happen? They would become a stain polluting his faultless Utopia. It was a situation that needed to be avoided at any cost.

Therefore Spencer decided to carry out a single plan.

The plan was called the "Wesker Project" after the name of the chief researcher.

According to the plan, several hundred children were gathered from every race around the world. They were children born from parents brimming with abilities. He thought that if he couldn't change their knowledge, moral values and common sense, he should endow them with these things he desired from the bottom up.

Each was given the name of "Wesker" and the gathered children were set free around the world. Naturally, extreme surveillance was attached without them noticing. Their fields were different but each would grow up in an environment where they received the best education.

Several years later, one particularly excellent and recognized young man was sent to the "Umbrella Executive Training Center" in Raccoon City. It was the Wesker given the name "Albert."

Albert Wesker's subsequent actions pleased Spencer. He was able to tell that this Wesker had sufficiently met the standards of his nascent humanity. Moreover, the same might've been said for other Weskers.

Therefore Spencer decided to push the plan forward to the next stage. He decided to administer an experimental stage virus to all the Weskers.

This was a "screening", so to speak, to ascertain the truly excellent Weskers. Some would be forcibly administered the experimental stage virus as part of their treatment, others on the recommendation of close friends.

Naturally, Albert Wesker was no exception either. He received the experimental stage virus from his rival William Birkin and injected it himself for his scheme.

It could be said that the result of this "screening" was too severe. Almost all Weskers died, only a few surviving. One of the survivors, Albert Wesker, disappeared somewhere.

It was "Spencer's presence."

That was the true figure of the uneasiness Wesker had continued to feel. Wesker wasn't interested in Spencer, his curiosity was programmed. And in accordance with Spencer's expectations, Wesker had returned.

However, Spencer had just one miscalculation. The safeguard kept in the depths of Wesker's psyche was effective only because he was a mystery. There was no reason for Wesker to be quietly bound by it if he understood his true nature. Furthermore, he had grown old and was an elderly man all the more close to death.

"God... I see. I will take over"

With those words, Wesker severed his own chains.

Was it mere chance that his former subordinates Chris Redfield and Jill Valentine delved in? Wesker thought of it as a revelation. The Homo sapiens who had interfered with his own plans many times.

It seemed there was definitely still room for evolution.

Wesker murmured in his heart.

Then, Wesker survived that place and in possession of funds, research results and viruses using a position he'd gained in a certain pharmaceutical company, he crept underground again. He began ascending the steps for becoming a next-generation god, to carry out the veritable "Uroboros Project."



so their such a critical part of the first half of the series, it's such a shame that they just disappeared like that never to be used again save for a slight mention in a file in Bio 7.


Now it is of course quite possible that it's not him at all in any form. However, that is the implication they are going for. Whether or not it's misdirection or a red herring etc is unknown. But the fact that they are deliberately tying Wesker to Blue Umbrella indicates a high probability of the rival company being involved.
I hear ya, maybe indeed they will come to light but I'm really not feeling it a this time, such a shame.
 
I'm still confident Wesker's involvement is just an easter egg and it absolutely nothing at all. The fact this game (according to Capcom) will never feature on any official timeline is both a shame and yet highly telling at the same time. However, for argument's sake if Wesker's inclusion is meant to be a canonical aspect I see it more as someone imitating him with the goal of intimidation. We've seen before in the past that characters want to shape the world by 'ruling through fear' and other similar motivations. This legendary executive may be purposefully keeping his identity a secret (which explains why no one in the organisation knows who he is) and is imitating Wesker to spread fear and gain allegiance from everyone around him. We know from 6 that the technology is available for someone to look and sound like someone else via the communication cube things. Maybe creating an illusion of keeping Wesker alive is the only way to keep the loyalty of those who formerly worked under him and yet at the same time send out a message to the BOW underworld that this man simply cannot die and is indeed immortal. I don't buy in to any kind of clone or resurrection theories because there simply isn't the evidence to back it up, but I could see an imitator passing himself off as Wesker. He could be trying to keep that legend alive in order to maintain that spread of fear, or he could simply be imitating his voice as a way of preserving his own identity.
 
but god only knows at this point where the plot is going.
this wouldn't be such a bad thing if WE the consumers did not know where the plot was going as it creates a big mystery for suspense.

the problem here is that the producers also do not know where the plot is going.

this is where the red flag for concern has come up time and time again for the series as writers throw in plot points that never get followed up on.

I'm also confident that Capcom doesn't know the storylines for:

Ada

The Family

Jessica/Raymond/T-Abyss

Natalex
 
^ They have planned out BU as early as at least 2013, and it was concieved as early as RE4. I thought you said you weren't posting in this thread anymore?
 
BU has been a long time coming, and is the culmination of the BIOHAZARD story:


http://www.crimson-head.com/WEBPROTECT-umbrellachronicles.htm


Wesker had everything he needed. In his pocket was all the data that Umbrella had collected about the biogenetic weapons and a sample of the variant T virus for mass production. Wesker initially planned to offer the T-virus cheaply on the black market. That would make sure that the whole world would be caught up in a panic with fear of bio-terrorism. In the midst of a climate of fear, the powerful man could easily grab the scepter. And that was Wesker's intention. And that finally a new story should be told. But since he had given himself the lead role in this story, the Umbrella Corporation had to be irretrievably destroyed beforehand. Umbrella's star was sinking. It wouldn’t be long and the company was going to collapse completely. The company had held a trump card with the T-virus but did not know how to use it. In the end, the Umbrella Corporation had only the T-A.L.O.S. The skills of the group were limited, thought Wesker, his own, however, unrestricted.

...

Wesker operated the control panel. Various data images ran across the screen. The whole Umbrella Corporation was spread out here before him.


He had already forwarded specific information about how the Umbrella Corporation was involved in the destruction of Raccoon City to the prosecutor. For the badly hit company that would make the final nail in the coffin.



The downfall of Red Umbrella was in anticipation for Blue. Rather than being a retcon or reboot, it is actually the accomplishment of Wesker's plans since Bio1. A lot of the complaints made completely miss the big picture here. The narrative is stronger now - Wesker betraying Umbrella and rise of power in the Rival Org, the age of bioterror started in 2003 with perfected T which continues to this day, the sudden premature fall of RU in the intro of Bio4, it all converges in BU. BIO5 resolved Spencer's ambitions and the origins of RU and the discovery of Progenitor, and now BU takes the center stage. It all fits together and makes the meta story so... beautiful.


Also:


No doubt, the moment Sergei died, Wesker had died too. His heart and lungs had ceased to function, the brain had ceased its activity. But Wesker, whose death had seized with Sergei’s followed a path of no return, Wesker, whose death had been absorbed by Sergei, came back to consciousness after a few minutes.


So according to the novel, Wesker had died again in 2003. To the point of actual brain death.

In the same section he is literally ripped to pieces and dismembered, only to recover and regrow.

As for his original death in 1998:


Albert Wesker; employee of the Umbrella Corporation, was dead, he no longer existed. And there were people who could testify to that. The organism that was Wesker had died the moment the Tyrant had caught him. His body was no longer that of a man. Though his skull was shattered and half his brain matter had been crushed, he lived. All the tormenting pain had vanished in the moment in which he advanced towards death as a human. And the virus created by Birkin had done its work inside Wesker's body, converting the intense pain to a completely opposite feeling; joy. Wesker could feel the joy of being alive. He was resurrected as a member of a new human race, and he experienced the sweet taste of this sensation like a swim through golden honey. And all this, from the very beginning, had been part of Wesker's plan. He now did no longer have to guess what it was like to be reborn in another form.


This all supports this file from the actual game:


If only a tissue fragment remains, the virus will resuscitate by rebuilding body tissues even if death results.


The supposed Wesker revival after 2009 isn't as outlandish as it first seems. Of course the recent hints could be misdirection or be about a clone, but the groundwork is laid for anything to be possible.

This isn't related, but from the same file:


The remaining 20% resuscitated exhibited no bodily strengthening.


We know the percentages are very different in humans than in other animals, but Alex also survived infection without gaining powers.
 
A potentially interesting discovery... The Umbrella soldiers in RE7 are identified as the 'Special Case Processing Team' who are in official partnership with the BSAA. This team is led by Chris Redfield but also contains other BSAA members working under him. Only BSAA members with many achievements are eligible. Their standard issue sidearm is the Albert W. 01P. The Special Case Processing Team was established at Blue Umbrella after their reconstruction and are responsible for various anti-bioterror activities. It also corroborates previous information suggesting BSAA members invited as advisors to Blue Umbrella have access to the Umbrella Arsenal System.


This team is likely the 'investigation team' mentioned in the kaitai shinsho led by Chris who are hunting Eveline in 2014.
 
^ Which explains Chris' attachment to the soldiers in NaH, despite his resentment towards BU itself. It also supports the idea that BU have only recently become an active public player ("our resurrection is at hand"), since no such collaboration has been seen before.


Well, after the wise cracks from people about BU soldiers being wiped out so easily, it's funny that they were BSAA after all.
 
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