If RE9 doesn't have Jill in it, then WTF? She has been gone from the series for too long, sans remakes. Even Barry wasn't in the RE3 ending. That was dumb. 
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Chris will probably appear with Jill. There was a rumour a while ago about RE9 or maybe 10 being called Apocalypse, and it's seemingly going to be serving as that one last run for the main characters. But I doubt Capcom will end the series permanently when it rakes in so much dough.
The problem is that if the franchise does continue, there's going to be more lingering holes in the plot, as this is the pattern. That's why I feel more comfortable playing the early RE games, because they all feel properly connected. I also just find them generally more atmospheric and overall enjoyable. The franchise becomes a total mess thereafter with the Las Plagas, the Molded, and other pathogens and multiple shadow organizations. Companies. Whatever they're meant to be.
It's just so convoluted...
The problem is that if the franchise does continue, there's going to be more lingering holes in the plot, as this is the pattern. That's why I feel more comfortable playing the early RE games, because they all feel properly connected. I also just find them generally more atmospheric and overall enjoyable. The franchise becomes a total mess thereafter with the Las Plagas, the Molded, and other pathogens and multiple shadow organizations. Companies. Whatever they're meant to be.
It's just so convoluted...
I've lost interest in the lore anyway. I'm beginning to accept that the series is all but tarnished. I don't see the point in ranting about it much anymore. Hissing and spitting.
Even Capcom doesn't give a shit about it either. They're gonna just keep making up more stupid stuff now as they go along. I honestly think that's what we're in for after the garbage that was RE8. I didn't think much of RE7 either, but even that was better than RE8.
I had people say to me that the remakes are canon. But I don't see how.
Yes, the 2002 remake arguably replaces the original as canon because Lisa Trevor is in TUC. But even some aspects of the rail shooters are complete nonsense, so you are probably better off just counting the new scenarios as canon, and not the retelling parts. The new chapters being of course those with Rebecca and Richard, the Wesker chapters, Ada escaping the city, the Russian invasion, and Wesker's fight with Sergei. Anything else is so shit.
Even Capcom doesn't give a shit about it either. They're gonna just keep making up more stupid stuff now as they go along. I honestly think that's what we're in for after the garbage that was RE8. I didn't think much of RE7 either, but even that was better than RE8.
I had people say to me that the remakes are canon. But I don't see how.
Yes, the 2002 remake arguably replaces the original as canon because Lisa Trevor is in TUC. But even some aspects of the rail shooters are complete nonsense, so you are probably better off just counting the new scenarios as canon, and not the retelling parts. The new chapters being of course those with Rebecca and Richard, the Wesker chapters, Ada escaping the city, the Russian invasion, and Wesker's fight with Sergei. Anything else is so shit.
The Nightmare scenario in Umbrella Chronicles is grey canon as well, especially the 2nd part where Richard gets attacked by Yawn in the library but in RE1 he is found in the east hallway on the 2nd floor. They even fight Hunters which is not supposed to happen until much later. When they witness Sergei carrying out what I presumed was a corpse to make TALOS, that felt silly and out of place to me. RE1/REmake's biggest flaw really is the narrative and how both scenarios cannot coexist with one another, and Nightmare doesn't help smooth out the continuity at all. My OCD is always triggered when I can't watch all the scenes with Barry in a single playthrough and have to reload my save to see the other.
This was carried over in RE:2 for some weird reason and we were left with half of the story from the original cut out. Only the beginning cutscene with Marvin was different between the 1st runs along with the interaction with Chris' letter, but the 2nd runs simply copied 1st run, had even less narrative and felt rushed and disconnected.
This was the perfect opportunity to focus on the more canon A/B scenario but they completely dropped the ball. They even adapted the RE7 style of telling the story through watching video tapes scattered around. This was another poor decision and they should of stuck with actual cutscenes to show how Birkin and NEST met their demise.
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For me personally the religious undertones of the lore and the whole Winter family dynamic never clicked with me. I tried really hard to like it but it feels too much like an RE4 copycat. I can't get behind how much it stretches out the lore by going back hundreds of years with the 4 lords cult and then jumping the timeline 16 more years with Rose so legacy characters can't get the closures they deserve. Rose even mentions that Chris and his Hound Wolf squad are still active after all that time.... like Chris is the only main character that matters anymore.
Same hence my profile picture lol. That's one thing I found most interesting about Vendetta is when Rebecca and Leon interacted, if only briefly. It is only natural to want characters you grew up with to develop and have more interpersonal relationships with one another who are all fighting for the same cause. It seems the new age RE fans could care less about all that though. They think RE is only about survival horror but if that were the case the franchise wouldn't have survived past the 2000's. There are good qualities in the more action titles as well. I will always look at RE1-3 as masterpieces while the others I can nitpick to death, but I try to find the good in all titles despite how I may feel about them. No game in the series is perfect, even our favorite ones.
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When Spencer was ill in RE5, how come he didn't just return to Miranda so she could use her mould powers to restore his health? 
You see? That's a plot inconsistency, Capcom!
You see? That's a plot inconsistency, Capcom!
If Capcom wants to appeal to new gamers with these remakes, and they add Wesker to RE4, then how about remaking RE1 in the same style then so that teenagers today can understand the plot?
For what it's worth, you kind of have to act like remakes are not linked to other games, which means newcomers will only know who Wesker is from checking out links about him online. So you are meant to treat RE2 and 3 as being modern. But the original RE1 remake is from 2002 and therefore not so modern anymore. Yet it's the game that introduced Wesker.
I just think it makes no sense to remake the games out of order the way they've decided to do so, as they really ought to consider the fact that youngsters today who are heavily into third person shooters, Fortnite and all kind of stuff, may not want to play the 2002 version because it may feel dated, unappealing, or something to that effect.
As sad as that may sound, of course, I'm just thinking of what to do for their current marketing plan.
For what it's worth, you kind of have to act like remakes are not linked to other games, which means newcomers will only know who Wesker is from checking out links about him online. So you are meant to treat RE2 and 3 as being modern. But the original RE1 remake is from 2002 and therefore not so modern anymore. Yet it's the game that introduced Wesker.
I just think it makes no sense to remake the games out of order the way they've decided to do so, as they really ought to consider the fact that youngsters today who are heavily into third person shooters, Fortnite and all kind of stuff, may not want to play the 2002 version because it may feel dated, unappealing, or something to that effect.
As sad as that may sound, of course, I'm just thinking of what to do for their current marketing plan.