How is Leon saying that automatically means he isn't aware of Sherry being a DSO agent until they meet at crash site?
He said that cause he never saw Sherry between RE2 and RE6 due to Simmons only allowing Claire to see her.
She wasn't mentioned in Leon's Tall Oaks chapters cause Carla gave a ( fake ) report to Simmons which is about Jake and Sherry getting killed in Edonia.
Please re-read what I said. I said it made no sense at all, that Leon wasn't completely aware of the fact Sherry became an agent. It makes absolutely no sense that he would have to suddenly remember, that he heard about it. This was a huge, life-changing event in her life, and his reaction was something you wouldn't expect of someone who was very protective over her life, and literally had his life changed because of her. He is in the government, mostly because of her. It was even said in the game's files, he didn't end his life back in RE2, because he wanted to help her make it out alive.
The game's files established that Sherry remained close to both Leon and Claire. Claire was the only outsider (outside of the US Government) who was said to be allowed to visit her, and Claire spent the most time with her. That's not the same thing as saying only Claire visited Sherry. Sherry was closer to Claire, but Leon was still one of her closest friends, as she said herself to Jake. Sherry even said she was still inspired to live up to their examples. She's literally in the same line of work as Leon, despite Claire wanting her to resign the whole time.
Irregardless of what her situation was, the point is that Leon coming off completely unaware of what was going on with Sherry, and having such a faint reaction to her being out on the field, in China, having been missing for 6 months, makes no sense, and is a disservice to Leon, Sherry, and even Claire. Again, Claire knew about Sherry being an agent, Claire was suspicious of Simmons, and she also was told by Sherry, she was going on a mission, not to worry about her, etc. She never hears back from Sherry. I mean you have to think about it. Sherry missed Christmas, probably birthdays, several holidays have passed, etc., where she would've tried to be in touch with Claire. Claire would worry about Sherry, even MORESO when her brother is missing as well. I would've expected Claire to be in touch with Leon.
Piers, whom we later find out Claire has met, met Sherry when Chris did, and even heard from their convo that Claire was close to Sherry. Chris assisted Sherry with getting her and Jake transported, only for Claire to never hear from, or see either after the fact. It wouldn't make a lick of sense if Claire didn't try to contact Leon for any info on Sherry, especially. It would seem odd that with Piers, being in the BSAA, he would be given an update that the BSAA lost more people (those with Sherry and Jake), and they had no idea what happened to Sherry and Jake, and wouldn't have told Claire, esp since he wanted to keep in touch with her after meeting her a couple of years prior.
What Carla sent Simmons:
To Derek C. Simmons
Capture of Jake Muller has failed.
He's now missing along with Sherry Birkin.
Both were probably embroiled in the bombing and blown to pieces.
She didn't say they were dead, she said they were missing, but probably dead, just so no one would go looking. Two different things. Had Sherry actually been reported dead, again, Leon and Claire having no reaction, makes no sense. Leon did NOT react to seeing Sherry as if she were believed dead (let alone like he hadn't seen her in years). Also, Piers did make it clear he was aware of Sherry and Jake being missing for six months, the moment they spotted them in China. So, no way I'd ever buy Leon wasn't aware of her being missing as well. Not knowing Simmons was her supervisor is already odd, but not knowing she was missing? NO!
But they still could have utilized Jill; couldn't they give her a Captain rank too just like they gave one to Chris after the events of RE5? Also I never said BSAA forced Piers to find Chris after he escaped from hospital, of course he would have searched for Chris in Edonia. I said BSAA forced him to take leadership for the search when that leadership should have been given to Jill. Giving Piers Chris' rank is fine I guess but still; what I said about Jill stands.
I checked the files and they sound like BSAA forced Piers to bring Chris back to China. Which isn't really surprising considering they forced Chris and Sheva to chase after Irving despite them being the only operatives in the area, remember Chris' " You ever get the feeling, you're expendable? " line? The guys at the top of the organization are surely reckless. I think if it was up to Piers, he would have put Chris to a hospital or something.
I can agree that Piers should have mentioned Claire or Jill though but I still think Chris should have listened to Piers and go after Iluzija with some sort of a plan instead of blindly rushing in and got his 2nd team killed in the process.
Really wished BSAA didn't put everything on Piers' shoulders though; more characters should have been involved.
Why would they give Jill captain rank, when she was not said to step down from her SOA position like Chris did (she's currently stated to be a returnee as of Rev2's timeline)? Chris chose to become a captain. That is CHRIS' journey. He teased in RE5 that he always wanted to become a captain. That is not something Jill has ever said she aspired to be. Course we'd actually need to put focus back on her, to actually find out more about her. I doubt, after RE5, she'd be thinking about leading teams like Chris.
Jill wouldn't have to step in as Captain, she already had the capacity to work with SOU teams, and she had privileges as a founding member of the BSAA. My thing is, she is not a minor character, and frankly I'm not in the least bit interested in seeing another tired retread of Jill looking for Chris, saving Chris, sacrificing herself for Chris (or vice versa), or otherwise being use as a plot prop to advance his story and reputation, while not being afforded actual focus on herself. She was already done a huge disservice in RE5, that can't truly be made up for (despite the lingering potential for her own story). Her being said to have offered help, or ideas on what Chris might be doing with himself, would've sufficed IMO. All I really wanted for her, was acknowledgement that she got involved somehow, due to her given relationship with Chris, and her keeping an eye out for him over the years they were both active.
Piers, was next in the line of command on Chris' unit. That's why he was filling in until Chris was found. It would be pointless to have Jill step in and lead things, while the person who is being hyped up as someone who could become a future leader, who Chris handpicked to train as his successor, is taking a backseat to Jill. The search for Chris is a background thing to the main story, but this was Chris' story. His character "progression" was training the next gen of soldiers, because there needed to be more people like he and Jill, capable of handling threats like Wesker (like Sheva). This was about Chris' experience since becoming a captain, and the impact it has on him. That said, Alpha team didn't just stop functioning because Chris was gone. One has to remember, they still had missions without Chris around, it's just Piers was also allowed to look for Chris as well. The search for Chris was personal for him.
From his file in Bio6:
As it is, I think if we allow him to gain experience, he could be made into the formal Captain of Alpha in the future, but Piers seems to think it's just a recovery team for Chris. Though we allowed him to search for Chris with agents, he finds time on his own to fly around Eastern Europe looking for Chris. For Piers, there can't be a BSAA without him. He'll find Chris as soon as possible"
This is saying Piers didn't want to be the captain at that time. He wants Chris back in his role. It says they allowed him to search with others, not that he was ordered to search for Chris. It also says Piers chose to look for him on his own time as well. I know one file said the search for Chris was under Piers' command, but it's not the same as saying Piers was told to do so.
I'll also quote both versions of the file addressing what Piers was asked to do.
Chris Redfield File -
Bio6
"At present, we don't know the details of either situation, but the U.S. government is refusing our intervention in the bioterrorism in America. Thus, we need the North American branch Alpha unit to hurry in order to suppress the bioterrorism in China.
A B.O.W. similar to the “J'avo” has been confirmed in the bioterrorism in China. The strength of the North American Alpha unit is indispensable with its combat experience against the J'avo.
I heard the report on your discovery of Chris Redfield. Depending on his situation, he’ll no doubt become a major force in the recovery team. Please head to China with Chris Redfield as soon as possible.“
RE6:
This is headquarters. Nivans, are you listening? There's been a bioterrorist attack in America and China. We don't have a lot of intel on the situation yet, but the U.S. government is denying our assistance on their front, so we need the alpha team to take care of the situation in China.
We’ve got reports of J'avo-like B.O.W.s which your team has had experience with before.
We also heard that you’ve run into Chris Redfield, so if you can, take him with you to Lanshiang. He could be a big help.
Standout comments:
“Depending on his situation…”
“Please….”
“…if you can…”
The only order to Piers was to take his team to China. Yeah, he's asked to bring Chris along too, but it is dependent on his condition. Hence the highlighted bits I point out. Piers is the one who told Chris they (the team) were bringing him back one way or another, despite knowing the state Chris was in at the time. Yelling and screaming in his face, already knowing before he approached him, that Chris was "lost." He was frustrated over the bioterrorism going on, and that Chris was in bad shape, sure, but his lack of empathy and care was alarming. Telling Chris he's running from his past, and he can't walk away from bio-terrorism/his role, because the men who died under his command, would've died for nothing. You do NOT approach people who are suffering from traumatic head/brain injuries, ptsd, amnesia, etc like that. Capcom/whoever wrote the script was really irresponsible with how they handled someone with a mental disorder.
Chris seemed to have allowed himself to be taken back willingly, thinking he needed to stop running from his past, face the truth, his responsibilities, etc in order to get his life back, but he was still in no way ready to be on a battlefield. He did not have to be on the battlefield in order to confront his past. Letting him take control of Alpha team, knowing the person he desired to kill was around (even after given orders later she was wanted alive), wasn't smart. Chris kept letting Carla get the best of him, which led to his men being killed (Chris' one-track mind definitely making matters worse).
He gave assistance to Sherry and Jake, and left them to fend for themselves afterward. Again, perfect opportunity for Piers to remind Chris who Sherry was, and what she meant to his sister. She was missing just as long as he was, and was being pursued by the same group Carla led, yet he had tunnel vision on Carla. He finds out Jake was Wesker's son, and starts to focus on that, and his retirement. He was quitting. He didn't even care about pissing Jake off, nor if he shot him point blank. He didn't need to address the fact he killed Wesker when he did. Were it not for his interactions with people like Leon (including telling him to help Jake and Sherry), Chris' story would've been nothing but a train wreck.
Chris couldn't remember anything clearly initially, and Piers knew that, and came off like he didn't care at first. He even got pissed off when Chris didn't remember him, and then shoved the images of the men who died in his face. This game even tries to justify Piers' disgusting behavior, by having Chris (post Leon confrontation), say Piers was right about him running from his past, and smile like it was all good. This doesn't excuse how Piers was very aggressive, cold, placing guilt onto Chris, and then threatening him with forceful extraction. They were going to go to China regardless. If Piers understood Chris was not himself, he should've just told HQ, and had him taken in to get the help he needed, but he didn't. Chris going along with things, because he wanted to get his life back, only to be at the end of his ropes by the end of it, again guilt-tripped into continuing on in his role of Captain. Not even a hint that Chris had learned from his mistakes, and was prepared to take on this role again despite the risks. Seeing him just go back to business, honestly felt like a disservice.
Soon as Chris began to remember the people who died, Piers got excited, until he noticed a dark shift in Chris attitude- being focused on Carla. Yeah, Chris should've listened to Piers's concerns (even the other men were noticing he wasn't being rational), but Piers should've stepped up to the plate and challenged his authority more. He did try to get Chris to listen some of the time, when he didn't just fall in line. Other times he was just as hot-headed as Chris. You don't go from "What happened to the legendary Chris Redfield, huh? What happened to you?" to, "It's a good thing Finn isn't here to see you like this." RIGHT after Chris was once again in denial about losing another person, and needed to terminate the body. ALL of this shows Chris never should've been out there. It's no wonder Leon was the one to get through to Chris.
Piers asked Chris if he remembered anything yet (early on), and expressed how he thought Chris would be a little rusty being back on the field, but was impressed his training kicked right in. This tells me, he actually seemed to think Chris was well-enough to be back on the field, and would be ok—once he remembered everything. He didn't seem to consider what Chris had been dealing with all those months, or how he'd be once he did remember everything. Chris told the Edonia team that his job was to make sure no one died on his watch, and no one was left behind. We already learned from his story in RE5, that losing people over the years was making him question if his efforts were worth it. It was one of the main reasons he had to know for sure if Jill was alive.
Piers saw Chris SUFFERING as the Edonia team began mutating in front of them (always hitting Chris hardest, because he was their leader), and even his denial, that they were all a lost cause. Chris did the same thing with Piers at the end. He was refusing to accept Piers was a lost cause, and Piers STILL said nothing to try and help him find some peace with that, only left him with his bloodied patch, to guilt him into staying in the BSAA as a captain. Even when Chris said he was going to retire, Piers was shocked, and didn't want him to do it. Chris was necessary in his opinion, but nevermind whether or not Chris could handle everything in his position still, on top of all of his past trauma. I get what they were trying to do, but it was a hot mess.