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General The Ridiculous Side of RE

Pretty much everything about Los Illuminados and Ethan Winters. Parasyte is one of the best manga and anime of all time and clearly Shinji Mikami just had to steal its titular subject looking at the Plaga mutations. They literally had to murder the uselessness out of Ethan and he's still just a clone of Harry Mason and James Sunderland without a personality. The clothing choices they made for Excella, Palpaddler, and Captain Kralazar are just straight sigh worthy.
 

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This is the only theme in the whole franchise that's better than basement soundtrack of re1 dualshock version.

" Enjoy very realistic sound "
 
I just had to rant a little bit earlier on, and if anybody enjoys these little podcasts I do, then cheers.

So many people say that the... ahem, [butchered] RE2 remake is "TEH BEST GAME EVER!!!!1" - but guess what? ;)

It has as much cut content as RE3 does, but because the original is also "TEH GREATEST TITLE EVER!!!1" - nobody thinks it's poorly. :D

 

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Adlibbing in outbreak games can be hilarious sometimes. I usually like to use that gameplay feature a lot and some shouts of characters can make me laugh.

Like " Hi! " or " Hey you! " . George also has a hilarious one which is " You're worse than my ex-wife. " or something like that.
 
The "hey you" line is also in Alone in the Dark 2. Pirates carrying guns follow you around. :D

Just import both of the Outbreak titles already, Capcom. Plenty of people would love to get to play these games online, who didn't back in 2004.
 
Collecting decapitated baby parts and making a vaccine only to get destroyed were the biggest blue ball experiences I had with this series in a good while. Please step up your storytelling Capcom.
 

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I cant stand to the intro of re2 2019 at all. It's so stupid and gross. Why show a random truck driver eating a disgusting looking hamburger? What's even the point of that?

2nd run intro is also pointless and it's overall a rehash just like the entire run. The og game has better intro for both a and b scenarios than re engine version.
 
Ahh yes Magneto who can forget him? New fans can accept him as a boss but not T Rex Simmons or a giant fly. And yeah besides gameplay of RE:2 it’s just a fkn travesty of a story. But I guess people are more invested in a realistic looking virtual burger than coherent storytelling these days. And don’t forget the not-Mia zombie that bites the trucker lol.
 
Also, the year 1998 keeps getting milked. But Raccoon City is long gone.

They should start thinking about drawing a line under that era, even if it is seen as being highly profitable. They are just rehashing old storylines year in, and out now. :p
 

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Ahh yes Magneto who can forget him? New fans can accept him as a boss but not T Rex Simmons or a giant fly. And yeah besides gameplay of RE:2 it’s just a fkn travesty of a story. But I guess people are more invested in a realistic looking virtual burger than coherent storytelling these days. And don’t forget the not-Mia zombie that bites the trucker lol.
Honestly ı feel that simmons' mutations make sense for what they are, ı thought about them a lot due to people complaining them and eventually found answers. They never bothered me either, ı find them incredibly satisfying to fight, even when playing as ada during chopper sequence. If he didnt mutate, he would have been more anti-climactic just like downing, davis, lansdale and wilson. ( I believe simmons is the only corrupt politician who mutates, well deserved for a disgusting pos like him. )

But the fanbase goes dumb when it comes to re6 and just bully the hell out of it for some stupid reason. It happens everywhere, the hate bandwagon for the game is a disgusting curse or something. It's atrocious and makes no damn sense.

As for heisenberg, ı would say he's the best character in the game but ı feel that the story of revillage could have happened differently. I would have preferred if ethan teamed up with heisenberg to take down miranda and him receiving chris' help to kill heisenberg lastly. It would have been more fitting and satisfying, especially since heisenberg's mutant form looks more intimidating than miranda's imo. ( Re4 also makes a similar by making salazar's mutant form looking more intimidating than saddler's. ) That way his heart wouldnt be ripped out by miranda and ı think he could have survived.

And yeah re2 2019's story is a trainwreck overall. It's the worst in the series imo. I used to think revillage was but ı solved a small issue of mine that ı had with chris' character.
 
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A man like Ethan would never join a man like Heisenberg. He's as idealistic as Chris was. Such people will not consciously cooperate with fascists and Nazis, even if it can help them.
I get the social darwinist part, but how is Karl a fascist? I'm pretty sure the game director said he was unrelated to the Nazis.
 
I can very easily. Heisenberg makes a lot more sense to me than Simmons and even Piers' mutation.
At least with Simmons he was a nod to William Birkins G forms, although a giant fly was completely unnecessary. With Piers, his mutation was a nod to Morpheus and Albinoids in which their mutations are explained.

I’m not sure how a moldy parasite can give someone magnetic powers, it doesn’t fit in RE. That Heisenberg metal gear fight was so far removed from everything I have seen from this series to date. I’m sure if this concept was brought up in the developers room back in the day they would laugh.

It’s hilarious how Capcom wants to be more realistic but keep throwing in more superpowers into RE. Can’t wait for Natalia-Alex to shoot lazers out of her fingertips. They actually considered doing that during Rev2’s development.
 
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I get the social darwinist part, but how is Karl a fascist? I'm pretty sure the game director said he was unrelated to the Nazis.

Heisenberg is not a Nazi in the sense that he is not a member of Adolf Hitler's party, that is, National Socialism. This is true, and I don't think it could ever have been the case, even though Karl is wearing a Nazi dog tag.

Nevertheless, his ideology and actions are characteristic of those of the fascist movement, which is why I called Heisenberg that way.

This does not necessarily mean that he could be related to a particular party or to such specific people as Mussolini or Hitler. Karl just has a fascist and anti-human personality nature, as I see it.

It's the same with Umbrella and its members. Such an ideology as Social Darwinism is part of the corporate culture and doctrine of the company both before bankruptcy and after reorganization. Like Hitler, executives even initiate rivalry between employees, after which they reward the strongest and punish the weakest, including killing them.

And although the games even compared Spencer or Wesker to Hitler, and their company to Nazi Germany, including treating the organization's employees as a race of supremacists, this does not make the "Umbrella people" actual Nazis, because this is a completely different party.

At least with Simmons he was a nod to William Birkins G forms, although a giant fly was completely unnecessary.

The G-Virus has never provided the amount of energy that Simmons had. When Birkin infected himself with the strain, the altered cells began to divide gradually, using the doctor's tissues as a source of nutrition. And only after there was nothing left of Birkin, the life form began to assimilate the biomaterial from the environment. For this reason, we see G-Zombies in The Darkside Chronicles, which G5 vomits.

And that's the reason why suspension of disbelief didn't work for me regarding Simmons. You just see from a bird's-eye view on a helicopter how a tiny man turns into a giant mass the size of a building, after which he puts all this mass back into his tiny body. Can you put a real car in your pocket? I can't, and that's what Simmons basically did.

I mean, it looks very dramatic and someone will find it exciting, but it's definitely not my choice of taste.

With Piers, his mutation was a nod to Morpheus and Albinoids in which their mutations are explained.

Piers' ability to generate electricity comes from an organ resembling that of jellyfish. But the thing is that jellyfish don't produce electricity, it's a misconception.

Despite this, it's not my issue with the scientific part regarding Piers. The electricity he shoots is actually plasma, that is, ionized gas. And the way he kills HAOS underwater is absolutely impossible, because the gas cannot function equivalently underwater. There are reasons why lightning does not go deeper than the surface of the water if it hits the river.

One way to get plasma underwater is to boil water so the gas can be there through the bubbles, but that's clearly not what happened. We see a rapid lightning strike on the bioweapon.

Again, it's a cool and dramatic scene and all that, but there's no science in it. It's pure drama, pure fiction.

I’m not sure how a moldy parasite can give someone magnetic powers, it doesn’t fit in RE. That Heisenberg metal gear fight was so far removed from everything I have seen from this series to date. I’m sure if this concept was brought up in the developers room back in the day they would laugh.

It's not the mold or the vector of it that gave Heisenberg such abilities.

The main thing that Cadou does is carrying mold with a variety of genetic information and spreading the fungus inside the body, as a result of which the human being mutates into a chimera. We have seen this effect with the example of Marguerite Baker. Despite the fact that Eveline is not such a database-rich vector as Cadou, the girl brought Marguerite insects that the woman kept in her body. Therefore, in the process of assimilation, the mold mixed DNA, making Marguerite a chimera as well.

The involvement of mold ends with the fact that Heisenberg became a chimera and received an organ capable of generating electricity because of this. Everything else is pure physics and conscious control over the body.

Heisenberg conducts electricity throughout the body, including nerve channels and the brain, using his body as a solenoid. In this way, he converts electrical energy into magnetic energy. This is the way the coil works, Karl is just an organic version of it.

Unlike Magneto, who I believe is a magnetokinetic, Heisenberg does not control metal objects. He excites a magnetic field of the shape he needs to manipulate objects in this way. If you have the ability to control gravity, people themselves will fall in any direction without your direct influence.

And as we can see, Heisenberg's magnetic field, if it is strong enough, can affect not only metal objects, but also diamagnets, which is Ethan. This is also pretty true of science, and we have an experiment by Andrey Geim, who helped the frog to levitate through the excitation of a strong magnetic field. This is a completely harmless experiment, and people can also levitate in this way.

Not to mention that Heisenberg is not nearly as big as Simmons was, and most of his body is junk, among which there are large pistons that we saw earlier, a continuous track on which he moves, and so on.

So no, I definitely disagree. New games for me handle with science better than even such old ones as Dead Aim and CODE: Veronica.

And I especially like how developers combine different elements from science. Even Donna doesn't cause hallucinations because the mold. It's because of the flowers with alkaloids that do it. Donna simply controls the signals through the symbiosis of the fungus and the plant.

And the series has definitely done similar things before, when the HCF combined bioweapons with technology. This is essentially what Heisenberg was doing as well.
 
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