RE:3 RE:3 is out!
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I'm kinda feeling odd about Remake 3 now out. It turned out pretty much exactly what I thought it was, that it would be a half baked and shallow experience that was just continuing the issues that were in RE2 '19. But I'm also slightly disappointed that Capcom really did just half ass another remake and game right after the last one and even screwed up the side game (Resistance) in the process!
I still find it dumb that the things people are now complaining about with Remake 3, they ignored in Remake 2 and called that game "one of the best remakes ever!!" when it had the same exact issues.
I'm still looking into Remake 3, so I'll post more in-depth thoughts about what I think about the characters and story and so on later.
Edit: A video I find that I agree with about Remake 3 and Capcom's screwups lately with the RE series.
I still find it dumb that the things people are now complaining about with Remake 3, they ignored in Remake 2 and called that game "one of the best remakes ever!!" when it had the same exact issues.
I'm still looking into Remake 3, so I'll post more in-depth thoughts about what I think about the characters and story and so on later.
Edit: A video I find that I agree with about Remake 3 and Capcom's screwups lately with the RE series.
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Hey, Herb. I feel my video was spot on too. 
I feel like RE4 arguably ruined the franchise in 2005 by making it into an action oriented series to begin with. How does that dumb merchant get his stalls and ammo everywhere? Does he hire a lorry? Uh! It's so bad. The fact that enemies drop ammo and gold too, is so silly.
Generally, I like RE4, 5 and hell, even 6, but only as 'muck around' co-op games. I've never really considered them to be true RE games, even though they are. Revelations 2 actually made the co-op aspects more realistic. To me, I feel like they deliberately added in some references to past games, to glue it all together, without actually being formally linked at all to any of the prior PlayStation era titles. Sort of like how you find posters or diary notes by people of the past, but it's not even relevant to the here and now outbreaks.
Well, that's just how I feel. I consider RE3 and also RE2 from last year, to be soulless cash grabs. Even Project Resistance (which is basically a glorified extra mode) falls into that category.
I feel like RE4 arguably ruined the franchise in 2005 by making it into an action oriented series to begin with. How does that dumb merchant get his stalls and ammo everywhere? Does he hire a lorry? Uh! It's so bad. The fact that enemies drop ammo and gold too, is so silly.
Generally, I like RE4, 5 and hell, even 6, but only as 'muck around' co-op games. I've never really considered them to be true RE games, even though they are. Revelations 2 actually made the co-op aspects more realistic. To me, I feel like they deliberately added in some references to past games, to glue it all together, without actually being formally linked at all to any of the prior PlayStation era titles. Sort of like how you find posters or diary notes by people of the past, but it's not even relevant to the here and now outbreaks.
Well, that's just how I feel. I consider RE3 and also RE2 from last year, to be soulless cash grabs. Even Project Resistance (which is basically a glorified extra mode) falls into that category.
Lately I have been watching this game in parts on a YouTube channel called TheRadBrad. So far as I type this, he's gotten up to the hunters in the hospital. So far this game isn't that scary. I thought my arachnophobia would of triggered with the spiders in the substation, but it didn't. The hunters didn't seem that bad either; just hard to kill. Those Nemesis battles seem quite extreme. Nicholai is a bigger jerk in this version.
I can't wait for Brad to upload the rest of the game so I can see how it ends.
I can't wait for Brad to upload the rest of the game so I can see how it ends.
Hi, ResidentEvil7.
The spider like enemies are actually the Drain Deimos, seen in the original at the cross section with the pallets hanging overhead.
The spider like enemies are actually the Drain Deimos, seen in the original at the cross section with the pallets hanging overhead.
I haven't beaten the game yet. I feel like this one will be more fun to replay than RE2 Remake. Jill and Carlos have variable combat options and both will take some time to master. The gameplay is just plain fun. I can't help but notice that the series is once again leaning heavy into action over horror, it's just inevitable I suppose. RE5, for example, is incredibly fun to play to this day with all its weapon and melee options. Now Carlos has a shoulder tackle (which triggers me because George Hamilton is the OG shoulder tackler) and it combos into a very Chris Redfieldian punch... At this rate, the next remake will have various forms of dodges and melee once again.
Not gonna comment on the story of RE3 at the mo'.
What I want next is an Outbreak remake now more than ever. Carlos and Jill are different from each other enough to show me that this type of game is very possible in its current design. Remake the 10 original scenarios and plop us back into Raccoon City with 4 players co-op whilst trying to survive and solve puzzles. This remake series doesn't seem keen on puzzles but the elements are all here and ready to go. There's no need for a mastermind controlling enemies. Just program some decent AI for a wide variety of enemies and let us explore various iconic locations in short 15-30 minute spurts. And please forget the hand-holding of current co-op games. If you die, you die and the survivors have to choose to move forward or give up.
I feel like I need to write a proposal to Capcom to get it through their minds how much NOW is the time for this type of game.
Not gonna comment on the story of RE3 at the mo'.
What I want next is an Outbreak remake now more than ever. Carlos and Jill are different from each other enough to show me that this type of game is very possible in its current design. Remake the 10 original scenarios and plop us back into Raccoon City with 4 players co-op whilst trying to survive and solve puzzles. This remake series doesn't seem keen on puzzles but the elements are all here and ready to go. There's no need for a mastermind controlling enemies. Just program some decent AI for a wide variety of enemies and let us explore various iconic locations in short 15-30 minute spurts. And please forget the hand-holding of current co-op games. If you die, you die and the survivors have to choose to move forward or give up.
I feel like I need to write a proposal to Capcom to get it through their minds how much NOW is the time for this type of game.
The new characters were interesting, at least. Well, Tyrell wasn't new, but the doctor and minor characters were unique.
N7Valentine
It's my turn now, Bitch!
I still don't own the game because of the C-Virus Coronavirus nonsense but I've watched playthroughs because it's my favorite RE game. So I'll post a couple of thoughts here:
- Jill Valentine: Now, it's no secret that she's my favorite character here and I have to admit I was initially scared Capcom turned her into a whiny princess (as it was my reactions from early trailers) but thankfully that's not the case and I feel relieved. She's confident, sassy and badass as they come. Sure, she inherited Claire's Tourette Syndrome but I can live with that, in fact, some lines made me chuckle like "It's my turn now, Bitch!" or "Bitch can't even swim." LMAO. I was cool with her new face from the beginning, although I still think her new outfit is a bit generic, but hey, it's more practical this time. My favorite was the final show-down between Jill and Nemesis, where she showed him who's the boss:
I know it's quite ridiculous for a petite woman like Jill carrying a huge ass railgun like nobody's business but it's cool at the same. Jill surely makes a guy like me who's been doing weightlifting/bodybuilding for 6 years look like a damn whimp hahaha. I'm kinda happy how she turned out, as I always felt they turned her into a doormat even after the original RE3, so it was damn good to see her back to her badass self.
- Carlos Oliviera: He's still the Carlos we know, flirty, funny but still kickass but at the same time, he kinda felt useless in the Remake. In the original he felt like he helped you, now he just assists Jill and that's all. Maybe it's Capcom's way of saying "He appeared in just one game thus he ain't important anyway"
- I loved how Tyrell is more involved this time
- They kept the original music like Final Metamorphosis, Save Room Theme and The Ending theme which I loved.
Now let's go to some cons:
- I didn't like how they removed the Clocktower section. It was one of my favorites.
- I wasn't fond of Nemesis' mutations. In his second he looked like G4 and in his last form, he resembled the Alien Queen.
- The Waste Room battle in the original was better. It's my favorite Nemesis battle in the game
- The lack of ambience music like The City of Ruin, but that's what most modern games fail to do anyways, so it isn't mainly just a problem for modern RE. Other series that are old have the same problem, imo.
Okay, I gotta play it myself to give a more extensive and detailed overview, as I like to look at small details and such. Give me two weeks until my copy arrives
- Jill Valentine: Now, it's no secret that she's my favorite character here and I have to admit I was initially scared Capcom turned her into a whiny princess (as it was my reactions from early trailers) but thankfully that's not the case and I feel relieved. She's confident, sassy and badass as they come. Sure, she inherited Claire's Tourette Syndrome but I can live with that, in fact, some lines made me chuckle like "It's my turn now, Bitch!" or "Bitch can't even swim." LMAO. I was cool with her new face from the beginning, although I still think her new outfit is a bit generic, but hey, it's more practical this time. My favorite was the final show-down between Jill and Nemesis, where she showed him who's the boss:
- Carlos Oliviera: He's still the Carlos we know, flirty, funny but still kickass but at the same time, he kinda felt useless in the Remake. In the original he felt like he helped you, now he just assists Jill and that's all. Maybe it's Capcom's way of saying "He appeared in just one game thus he ain't important anyway"
- I loved how Tyrell is more involved this time
- They kept the original music like Final Metamorphosis, Save Room Theme and The Ending theme which I loved.
Now let's go to some cons:
- I didn't like how they removed the Clocktower section. It was one of my favorites.
- I wasn't fond of Nemesis' mutations. In his second he looked like G4 and in his last form, he resembled the Alien Queen.
- The Waste Room battle in the original was better. It's my favorite Nemesis battle in the game
- The lack of ambience music like The City of Ruin, but that's what most modern games fail to do anyways, so it isn't mainly just a problem for modern RE. Other series that are old have the same problem, imo.
Okay, I gotta play it myself to give a more extensive and detailed overview, as I like to look at small details and such. Give me two weeks until my copy arrives
I still don't own the game because of theC-VirusCoronavirus nonsense but I've watched playthroughs because it's my favorite RE game. So I'll post a couple of thoughts here:
- Jill Valentine: Now, it's no secret that she's my favorite character here and I have to admit I was initially scared Capcom turned her into a whiny princess (as it was my reactions from early trailers) but thankfully that's not the case and I feel relieved. She's confident, sassy and badass as they come. Sure, she inherited Claire's Tourette Syndrome but I can live with that, in fact, some lines made me chuckle like "It's my turn now, Bitch!" or "Bitch can't even swim." LMAO. I was cool with her new face from the beginning, although I still think her new outfit is a bit generic, but hey, it's more practical this time. My favorite was the final show-down between Jill and Nemesis, where she showed him who's the boss:
I know it's quite ridiculous for a petite woman like Jill carrying a huge ass railgun like nobody's business but it's cool at the same. Jill surely makes a guy like me who's been doing weightlifting/bodybuilding for 6 years look like a damn whimp hahaha. I'm kinda happy how she turned out, as I always felt they turned her into a doormat even after the original RE3, so it was damn good to see her back to her badass self.
- Carlos Oliviera: He's still the Carlos we know, flirty, funny but still kickass but at the same time, he kinda felt useless in the Remake. In the original he felt like he helped you, now he just assists Jill and that's all. Maybe it's Capcom's way of saying "He appeared in just one game thus he ain't important anyway"
- I loved how Tyrell is more involved this time
- They kept the original music like Final Metamorphosis, Save Room Theme and The Ending theme which I loved.
Now let's go to some cons:
- I didn't like how they removed the Clocktower section. It was one of my favorites.
- I wasn't fond of Nemesis' mutations. In his second he looked like G4 and in his last form, he resembled the Alien Queen.
- The Waste Room battle in the original was better. It's my favorite Nemesis battle in the game
- The lack of ambience music like The City of Ruin, but that's what most modern games fail to do anyways, so it isn't mainly just a problem for modern RE. Other series that are old have the same problem, imo.
Okay, I gotta play it myself to give a more extensive and detailed overview, as I like to look at small details and such. Give me two weeks until my copy arrives
City of Ruin does play after meeting Nicholai for the first time.
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Captain Redfield
The man who killed Albert Wesker
If they Remake RE4 and not CODE: Veronica I'll leave this franchise for good. Why Remake something that doesn't need it? It reeks greed and I'm not going to support a company who does such practices. "We do it for the fans!" For the fans my ass, CODE: Veronica is being demanded everywhere and I've seen BIG polls around Twitter where CV hasn't lost a single poll against RE4, in fact, it crushes RE4 when it comes to the next Remake wish (90% CV vs 10% RE4).
We'll see if they truly do it for the fans. One thing I'm sure, I'll never trust Capcom 100%.
We'll see if they truly do it for the fans. One thing I'm sure, I'll never trust Capcom 100%.
Another major gripe I have is the reused environments from RE2. I’m not talking about the RPD. I’m talking the gigantic new sewer section and the NEST2.
Essentially, they either didn’t care or have enough time to recreate the clock tower, park or graveyard, so the sewer bridges the gap between areas. The factory is now replaced with a very similar looking NEST section with different lighting. The unique environments of the original RE3 gave the game lots of charm compared to what we got in this remake. And I’ll mirror the comment above about the tyrant vs ubcs missing. What a huge omission.
I’ll give some credit though. The city scenes and the hospital are great. City is still too small in my opinion but great atmosphere and vibe. The outside of the substation was done particularly well
Essentially, they either didn’t care or have enough time to recreate the clock tower, park or graveyard, so the sewer bridges the gap between areas. The factory is now replaced with a very similar looking NEST section with different lighting. The unique environments of the original RE3 gave the game lots of charm compared to what we got in this remake. And I’ll mirror the comment above about the tyrant vs ubcs missing. What a huge omission.
I’ll give some credit though. The city scenes and the hospital are great. City is still too small in my opinion but great atmosphere and vibe. The outside of the substation was done particularly well
N7Valentine
It's my turn now, Bitch!
Another thing that irks me, while not being directly related to the game, is the fandom shipping Jill x Carlos.
I know Carlos' got the hots for Jill but Jill doesn't seem to be interested in him at all. She warms up to him and respects him but she doesn't seem to be in love with him lol
I know Carlos' got the hots for Jill but Jill doesn't seem to be interested in him at all. She warms up to him and respects him but she doesn't seem to be in love with him lol
Captain Redfield
The man who killed Albert Wesker
I was wondering when you were gonna say that LOL
Tell me about it, some people on Twitter are losing their shit over Jill x Carlos saying their chemistry was over the top and... I play the fucking game and there's nothing, Carlos is obviously all into Jill but she simply isn't into it. Yeah, she apologizes for her words earlier and respects Carlos as the game goes by because of his actions but that's just about it. There's no chemistry if the feeling isn't mutual, just saying.
Those same people say that Chris x Jill have no chemistry. I mean, Jill leans on Chris, she hugs him, even in Desperate Escape the last thing she whispers before passing out is Chris and the first name she says upon waking up is Chris... Jill showed physical affection towards Chris more than once but nope, no chemistry lol
This whole Carlos fandom is annoying me quite a bit, he's nothing but a cheap Chris knock off combat-wise with traits of RE4 Leon in his personality.
N7Valentine
It's my turn now, Bitch!
Oh Bro, don't lose your head over these people. Shippers are sometimes... well, how should I put it... their "own species"
You know, two people get along, shippers are like "They must love each other". Two people hate each other, shippers are like "They must love each other".
Anyway, Jill clearly does not reciprocate any feelings towards Carlos. It's pretty clear from playing it (or watching in my case). In the original there were some romantic undertones like Carlos caressing Jill's cheek or that ending were both stand next to each other looking through the window but in the RE3make? There's none of that. And to be honest, Jill is pretty much out of Carlos' league anyway.
But then again, I assume you probably encountered folks claiming Chris has romantic feelings towards Piers, am I right? That's just as equally annoying, I'm telling ya...
Apparently people seem to have a problem with their long-term memory as their interactions are still canon and haven't been changed at all. But if you know the lore, you know where the real shit is at.
And yes, I too, always viewed Carlos as Latino Chris ( and Sheva as black Jill)
Captain Redfield
The man who killed Albert Wesker
Oh Bro, don't lose your head over these people. Shippers are sometimes... well, how should I put it... their "own species"
You know, two people get along, shippers are like "They must love each other". Two people hate each other, shippers are like "They must love each other".
Anyway, Jill clearly does not reciprocate any feelings towards Carlos. It's pretty clear from playing it (or watching in my case). In the original there were some romantic undertones like Carlos caressing Jill's cheek or that ending were both stand next to each other looking through the window but in the RE3make? There's none of that. And to be honest, Jill is pretty much out of Carlos' league anyway.
But then again, I assume you probably encountered folks claiming Chris has romantic feelings towards Piers, am I right? That's just as equally annoying, I'm telling ya...
Apparently people seem to have a problem with their long-term memory as their interactions are still canon and haven't been changed at all. But if you know the lore, you know where the real shit is at.
And yes, I too, always viewed Carlos as Latino Chris ( and Sheva as black Jill)
I won't bro but it sure gets annoying, even after the release of the game some people are "OMG they are flirting, so much chemistry!" Where? Not once Jill flirted back, she became a bit soft and not so rough towards him after a while but that was just a matter of respect, a partnership.
The thing is, it's been 11 years since Chris and Jill shared a scene together but if people mind to replay Remake, 5 and Revelations then there's the answer.
The same people who say Jill and Carlos have chemistry are the same ones who claim that Jill leaning on Chris or holding hands and hugging him is just friendly affection because they care for one another but...Just friends, on the other hand *Carlos flirts with Jill and she does nothing* and "OMG so much chemistry!" That's hypocritical.
Yeah, the gay community tries to see a relationship when there's none. Chris and Piers were just brothers in arms and not a single piece of dialogue suggested otherwise. Piers even flirted with two women in the series so he's clearly into women. "But he could be Bi" nothing suggested he was bi because he never showed anything advances towards Chris. He was straight as far as canon states.
I get the LGBT community might get frustrated and I'm all in for representation but Chris and Piers just aren't the ícone they were looking for.
I already knew prior to release that there was going to be an upsurge in Jill X Carlos. That's just how fanbases operate. You can bet money that when/if Code Veronica gets remade, there will be a return of Chris x Wesker fan content, possibly even Claire x Alexia along with the standard Steve x Claire ship. Better to just ignore it.
It's pretty bad that it feels with this remake they've just turned Carlos into Diet Chris. I felt that OG Carlos stood on his own apart from Leon and Chris as a character. But now Carlos sounds and acts like Chris with only a little more a flirty streak. From what I've seen only Nicholai and maybe Tyrell have gotten a decent showing in this game.
It's pretty bad that it feels with this remake they've just turned Carlos into Diet Chris. I felt that OG Carlos stood on his own apart from Leon and Chris as a character. But now Carlos sounds and acts like Chris with only a little more a flirty streak. From what I've seen only Nicholai and maybe Tyrell have gotten a decent showing in this game.
The amount of missing stuff dude, is just insane!
How ironic that we're playing a game based on a viral outbreak while there's an actual viral outbreak spreading across the world. That is so Resident Evil.
Tell that to Naughty Dog! ?