OT OT Discussion

[mert20004]

I'm gonna delete my discord account. I've been considering this and ı did this once before reverting it back. When ı checked it this morning though, for some reason, someone else used my account to share nitro comments to my friends. I've also found myself being part of a server ı never ever joined before. Probably one of the bots did this. I still have no idea how it happened.

The sole purpose behind creating that was to discuss resident evil series while also trying to take part at servers with their existence dedicated to discussing the said series. I suppose ı will stop it cause ı dont see much purpose, especially after what happened recently.

 

[mert20004]

I bought hitman blood money. I started it yesterday and did 2 missions. In many ways, ı think it's better than absolution but there are still aspects ı miss from the latter. Like being able to subdue with free hands, seeing through walls with instinct, better gunplay and smoother mechanics are things ı miss for it. Though ı'm still glad the disguise system is different, ı disliked it in absolution, it's so much better and less annoying here.

 

[mert20004]

Distracting enemies feels difficult with the coin. After getting used to the way distractions worked in absolution, going back to limited coin route doesnt feel that satisfying. During the tutorial, ı tried to distract the 2 guards with the coin but ı still get spotted. It's a good thing you can disarm enemies though, ı miss its absence in absolution. Rather than going through a long cinematic qte, you instantly disarm and take down targets instead.

 

[Mocata]

Absolution had some terrible ideas all round, but these days it is tough to go back to Blood Money which was once the top tier instalment. But not as bad as going back to Hitman 2: Silent Assassin which is often riddled with glitches.... Luckily the gameplay balance was solved in the World of Assassination Trilogy which is amazing. If only the music was as good as Jesper Kyd's OSTs. I may be back on the the 3rd game soon to finish my Silent Assassin Suit Only run.

 

[mert20004]

Absolution had some terrible ideas all round, but these days it is tough to go back to Blood Money which was once the top tier instalment. But not as bad as going back to Hitman 2: Silent Assassin which is often riddled with glitches.... Luckily the gameplay balance was solved in the World of Assassination Trilogy which is amazing. If only the music was as good as Jesper Kyd's OSTs. I may be back on the the 3rd game soon to finish my Silent Assassin Suit Only run.

Did you play all the games? What do you think about c47 and contracts? Did you play absolution's contracts mode too? It was shut down a long time ago but ı only noticed its deactivation after a long while, ı wished it was online cause it added more replay value.

As for woa, it seems to adapt absolution's play style while mixing it with blood money's. However from what ı've seen, the kill animations still dont look as satisfying as absolution's.

 

[Mocata]

Never played the OG and many retrospectives I've seen about it put me off, though it seems to have its charms. Personally Hitman 2:SS doesn't hold up well because of those issues I mention as the disguise/stealth system is broken, this is still true in the PS3 HD version, though I have fond memories of it back on Gamecube years ago. Contracts was technically the better game because it fixes these issues even if I wasn't a big fan of the edgelord tonal shift and the lack of cinematics.

Blood Money at the time was the peak, impossible to top, and only looked better when Absolution came out. Didn't bother with the added modes for that. Hated the visual style, the story, the Mark and Shoot mechanic, the linearity, the disguise system. The latest ones are games I've put many hours into, only the live service 'always online' garbage holds them back. Final train mission sucks, but they gave some good free content recently.

 

[mert20004]

I still find it weird. Before buying blood money, ı thought ı wasnt going to enjoy it compared to absolution but despite thinking that way, ı tried it and found it better than absolution in many ways. It's different from what ı feel with re games ı played after re6. I didnt enjoy them as much as re6 if ı remember correctly, re5 particularly felt strange with that pc patch thing until gold edition finally became available on pc and even then ı finished jill's dlcs once and didnt feel as much need to go back to them unless going through marathon plans ı created so that ı would get the most full experience from the series. It looks like re6 is still the only hated game ı defend so much, ı just cant find myself showing that much amount of favoritism when it comes to entries from other series.

 

[Mocata]

Both RE6 and Absolution come from that dark time when 'widening the net' was all anyone cared about. See also 'DmC' reboot or failed attempts to do Legacy of Kain as a free-to-play online title, Syndicate as an shooter (wtf). How much you think it damaged the end product is personal taste of course and not all games are made equal. Most of these were either restored in newer games or cancelled forever and are now dead IPs.

In terms of Hitman they seemed desperate for that new Gears of War audience (see the IOI fall and rise video) and were not even going have assassinations or use David Bateson as the voice of 47. Weird bad times all around, especially for Stealth and Horror, but RE6 was at least a continuation that a lot of people still play for fun. I get why not all people are into RE7 and VII.

 

[mert20004]

Both RE6 and Absolution come from that dark time when 'widening the net' was all anyone cared about. See also 'DmC' reboot or failed attempts to do Legacy of Kain as a free-to-play online title, Syndicate as an shooter (wtf). How much you think it damaged the end product is personal taste of course and not all games are made equal. Most of these were either restored in newer games or cancelled forever and are now dead IPs.

In terms of Hitman they seemed desperate for that new Gears of War audience (see the IOI fall and rise video) and were not even going have assassinations or use David Bateson as the voice of 47. Weird bad times all around, especially for Stealth and Horror, but RE6 was at least a continuation that a lot of people still play for fun. I get why not all people are into RE7 and VII.

I dont think 2012-3 was that bad. Other than re6, another disliked games ı played and enjoyed are batman arkham origins and god of war ascension. Are you a fan of those 2 series? I played greek era fully and even did multiple marathons, for batman arkham, ı didnt play all games but played city after origins. Personally origins is my favourite title and ı dont remember finding city as good as origins.

There's also dishonored ı played and quite enjoyed at the time but it seems to be quite liked for what it is.

 

[Mocata]

I like those series... but only the games that came before those titles in them. To me both the Batman and GoW titles you mentioned felt like spinoffs that didn't need to exist and didn't put enough effort in. Dishonored was pretty good though. Have to beat the sequel but it didn't get me invested so far.

 

[mert20004]

I've came back to absolution quickly after blood money and the movement there feels unnecessarily stiff compared to the previous game. I still like the shooting mechanics there but it feels unnecessarily restrictive in its approach compared to blood money.

 

[mert20004]

About blood money, is the progression during difficulties separate from each other? I'm playing it on the easiest difficulty since ı'm not that good at stealth but if ı finished the game on easiest difficulty and moved towards normal, would the cash carry over? Or do ı need to start from stratch?

I dont like the notoriety system, it feels like an unnecessary addition. It seems to be only in blood money and not at other games. The antagonists of blood money still suspect 47 behind the events regardless of its status so it doesnt feel like it plays much of a story purpose.

 

[Mocata]

I thought difficulty was tied to each save but I don't remember tbh. Notoriety is a funny addition but you can just use money to remove it and I don't remember it changing the ease of moving around. The senator tells his version of events anyway.

 

[mert20004]

Finished my 2nd playthrough for dishonored 2 today. I did it with corvo. After playing the game twice with both characters, it's still not as good as the 1st game as well as its dlcs about daud imo. It's a fun game that's improved from former in many ways but it didnt impress me as much compared to the 1st game.

 

[mert20004]

I finished blood money as of now. Most of the remaining missions ı tried to stay stealthy and overall they were fun. The 2nd last mission before the final one however ı decided to gun through everyone and it was quite satisfying. After finishing the game, ı can safely say that ı think blood money is better than absolution in every way imaginable. I was trying to give the latter the benefit of doubt but after finishing blood money, the overall experience was so much better than the 352 hours ı've spent on absolution. However ı didnt like the addition about the franchise as well as the agency being wiped out in the process except 47 and diana. Other than that, ı cant think of anything that bother me about it, at least storywise. It seems this is how absolution contradicts the former's plot very badly. Despite the agency being wiped out, for some reason, absolution reestablishes agency by completely ignoring blood money's events before making it the main antagonistic organization on top of that. It makes no sense whatsoever. Idk much of woa yet, ı might try those games eventually but ı'm planning to check the pre blood money games' cutscenes to get an idea about their stories.

 

[mert20004]

I watched c47's cutscenes recently. Overall ı enjoyed it fine, not much to talk about. Though ı still dont understand, why does absolution even have those flashbacks about 47? Before even being aware of the past games, ı thought they were related to his past but c47 doesnt delve into it that much, they have pretty much nothing to do with that game. Like why even put that much amount of focus into 47's experimenting? What's even the point of extending cloning plot point for more subjects other than 47? It only makes sense for 47, not for other victims. It feels like a waste of time and bloats the storyline with pointless filler. Both blood money and absolution put an unnecessary amount of focus into cloning for subjects that arent 47. It only makes sense for the 1st game, ı would have preferred it to be concluded there. They feel like strange parody scripts, particularly absolution. Going from taking down a shadow organization with worldwide influence to a boring " Lets go save a girl so that she wont become 47! " script is really downgrade imo.

 

[Mocata]

Well yeah the attempt to go 'more cinematic' was dumb and makes the ICA look like idiots. In fact most characters in that feel like they're from another series entirely. The whole thing with the girl and Diana and 47 cutting his barcode was terrible writing especially given how it ends. Some of the stuff in Hitman III with Marcus Gray and 47 wasn't exactly great but it was better at least.

 

[mert20004]

Watched the cutscenes of silent assassin. Imo it's not as good as the 1st game storywise. It pretty much sets up 47's path to keep being what he is. After watching both games' cutscenes, ı suppose ı can consider blood money as an end to storyline, especially due to agency's dissolution in it. To me bringing them back in future stories feels like a way to pull a reboot or some sorts.

 

[mert20004]

I really wished ı could get more into hitman series but after finishing blood money and checking the cutscenes of the 1st 2 games, ı see that game as a conclusion of the past storyline. I would have liked to play c47 and silent assassin but their gameplay look too outdated and not as variable as blood money. I dont like agency somehow coming back after the events of blood money. There doesnt seem to be a reasonable explanation given for that. I looked up to providence from woa and as a concept, ı like it more than the franchise but it still doesnt seem that necessary.

 

[Mocata]

Oh they always reformed or something, or they say it was just one branch of the Agency. It happened twice and if they ever do another one (probably years from now or never) it will have to be the same again. Not exactly a plot heavy series in that regard and there have been many contradictory plot elements and recycled ideas. The game world and design in the newest ones more than make up for it.