RE6 He's correct about RE6!

[Mark5]

Well, it was a hot time when the remake of the second game was released. I'll never forget it.

But I want to say that I may have a little understanding of what Capcom means when they say that games exist at the same time.

If you look at the latest remake, a lot of things are completely new. Not retcons that rewrite old knowledge, but new locations. For example, the game has a cafe where they sell donuts. At first I thought it was the same place where one version of Jill meets Carlos, just rewritten. But no, the crab restaurant is still in the remake, we're just not allowed in.

So is the Bard's lab: it's not a factory. Even the railgun was named differently and has a different origin. It seems to me that this was done with a certain intent: to show an alternative scenario. Show Jill's alternate path, which adds another interpretation to an already unreliable story.

On the one hand, the game is a remake, so the authors supported the thematic parallel and added tyrants and a railgun, on the other — Sergei could still send tyrants to the factory, the Americans could still assemble their gun. These elements exist in parallel.

I also don't think the remake rewrites Survivor, since I didn't see any direct contradictions in the game regarding the production of tyrants.

I think an alternate path is a good explanation but that leaves open to interpretation which is the true one canonically, since we have books that deal specifically with that (Archives and Archives II) so in my view the best way to avoid extra confusion about it would be releasing another archives book that defines properly if 2 and 3 remakes do alter canon with their peculiar paths and timetable, or even if the remake just adds news description for places to Raccoon City but discards parts of it when those details or events clash with what was already deemed canon before.

 

[russident]

another archives book

I agree. Moreover, I don't see any other way to solve this situation, actually.

 

[mert20004]

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[russident]

I wished re6 didnt get the reception it got. Re7 would have been very different and a possible sequel to re6 that way if the game received more positive reception.

A shame really not to mention capcom wanted jake as the main character for re7 before discarding that idea.

As far as I know, RE7 came out the way it came out, because Jun Takeuchi wanted a scary game in the style of The Evil Dead, and not because RE6 was shit or something in the style of comments from the Internet.

The series rarely makes direct sequels, actually. I noticed this when Wesker's Umbrella was ignored in RE5. Or when RE6 didn't develop the storyline of Dr. Wesker's children, but instead introduced new villains.

I also had no doubt that RE7 would be about something different and with a different approach. It's up to the development team to decide what game they want to make next. And everyone has their own ideas.

 

[mert20004]

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[Carlos]

So you like them anyway. ?

Bro. What'd I say at Devilmaycry.org? If @Goldsickle is annoying, just ignore him. In this thread, I can see him going in circles the whole thread.

The guy isn't going to change, and isn't going to understand. He lives in his own little bubble.

I see him goading you into arguments with questions, but you dodged the bullets.

 

[Caffeine Addict]

Well, this ain't really the time or the place to target his opinions. While I don't agree with him, he is still allowed to say how he feels.

I mean, I don't like how a lot of fanboys support some of the nonsense that Capcom incorporated into the franchise. Nemesis on YouTube is another one who talks a lot to make himself sound good. He said for years that Capcom were money grabbers and I do remember him saying he would not purchase the RE2 remake. Now he gets interviews with the voice actors, does the odd stream on Twitch, and very rarely ever makes rant videos defending the sad state of the series anymore. It's a shame, but I think that BioDevil_Dom and Renegade Operative corrupted him into being that way. But I am not a shill at all. Like, I stand by what I said about the nonsense that plagues the franchise wrecking it, like these merchants having the power to teleport around. The Duke especially. Uh!

With that said, I declared myself semi-retired from posting RE rants at the end of March. It's just because there comes a time when you have to say, "Fudge it! It's just a game!" Life is too short to dwell on these faceless airheads that pollute the Internet and one of them from Australia, actually stalks me. But, yes. Fanboys online aren't easy to deal with. It's like whatever Capcom makes, they're gonna follow the pack anyway.

 

[mert20004]

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[Caffeine Addict]

I like the in-between segments in both Chronicles games, but I detest the retelling parts. Some are just outright silly. I get why they changed the story, but it was a bit dumb in parts.

 

[RipvanX]

It’s still a bit jarring to even watch the Chronicles segments in between main games, like they should of been extra scenarios in their respective games.

The whole Beginnings and Nightmare scenario’s are grey canon. Wesker never fights the proto-tyrant Birkin sent after Rebecca and Billy. Richard was bitten in the East Wing of the Mansion not the West Wing Library. In Death’s Door, Ada never encounters the Mr. X from End of the Road. It’s a bit of a nonsensical mess in that regard.

These were mentioned in threads at the old Biohaze when it was argued whether Chronicles were canon or not. But alas this is supposed to be an RE6 thread so I’ll cut it here.

 

[mert20004]

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[russident]

The retellings are grey canon instead.

Interestingly, the concept of "grey canon" was brought by the administrator of Resident Evil Wiki, because she is a fan of Star Trek, and the community of this franchise often uses this concept during discussions. But she brought it to describe radio dramas and other sources, the canonicity of which is definitely unreliable. As for the retellings and new remakes, they were always absolutely canonical and none of the developers questioned this, as far as I remember.

 

[mert20004]

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[russident]

What other sources?

For example, the light novel The Wicked North Sea and the film Executor.

Also if retellings and reimaginings are canon; then we might as well accept gaiden and reorc canon too.

I think there was a confirmation somewhere that Operation Raccoon City is not a canonical game. However, I really don't know much about this game.

Speaking of Gaiden, this game was not considered in the chronology even before the release of Resident Evil 4, so its canonicity was always questioned in the community.

Idk but ı dont think reimaginings' status are reliable either.

Yoshiaki Hirabayashi and Peter Fabiano clearly said that the games are canonical.

Meanwhile the reimaginings arent memories of anyone and they have conflicting info with other titles which cant be excused unlike chronicles retellings.

You see, the point is not whether the new remakes conflict with other sources or not, but which sources are relevant to the chronology and which are not. All the scenarios of the first game and its remake also conflict with other sources, but they are still canonical.

 

[mert20004]

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[mert20004]

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[russident]

Though ı still dont understand how og games, retellings and reimaginings can be canon at the same time.

Yeah, it's pretty confusing, and we don't have any official source that can systematize all this conflicting knowledge.

I see it in such a way that none of the scenarios are really true. They only contain different elements that developers can use to establish new stories. This is all one big unreliable story that is open to interpretation.

 

[mert20004]

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[Caffeine Addict]

To be honest, I don't even give a flying squirrel's butt about the franchise anymore. They're just general horror games to me now. Nothing more...

 

[Goldsickle]

Bro. What'd I say at Devilmaycry.org? If @Goldsickle is annoying, just ignore him. In this thread, I can see him going in circles the whole thread.

The guy isn't going to change, and isn't going to understand. He lives in his own little bubble.

I see him goading you into arguments with questions, but you dodged the bullets.

It must really suck to have your favorite arguments debunked and made useless.

Your hatred towards RE6 is duly noted but it blinded you and made you gullible to confirmation bias.

Another thing ı dont understand is dmc reboot. Why does that game have very positive rating on steam? Meanwhile re6 has mostly positive rating. Are dmc fans more forgiving compared to re fans or something?

People on forums are loud minorities, that's all.
They can pretend that some games are "generally hated" all they want but user ratings from those who actually owned the games says otherwise.