Considering XII was basically an unfinished alpha version of XIII, I'd hope so.

But, anyway yeah, just dislike that they took her surprise rose and turned it into a DM and removed more than half her moves to give her variations on venom strike instead. I'm sure she can play rush down in XIII, it's just like I said, a lot of what I liked about her they took out.

In 2k for example she had Venom Strike, Double Strike, Tornado Kick, Mirage Kick, Trap Shot, Ground Slide, and Surprise rose in her arsenal along with her two supers of Illusion Dance and Silent Flash.

In XIII she has Ground Slide, Tornado Kick, Mirage Kick and 3 variations on Venom Strike. And then she has double strike and surprise rose as supers. That's a HUGE difference in her moveset and how she plays. It's almost like playing an entirely different character.

That's my problem with King.

But, either way, I probably will pick it up again eventually when I have the funds.

Dude, she has trap shot in XIII. In fact, that move is seriously like one of her best wake-up options and and helps her corner combo game ALOT. Plus you can connect it off of B tornado kick juggle. Sounds like someone has been "King Spoiled" Seriously though, i can guarantee if you really look past all that and dedicated yourself to her changed style, you'll like her A LOT. To be honest, she feels more at home in this game with this new style moreso than 2003 and XI. Can combo into both her supers and all specials with ground slide, can combo into super after B tornado kick, she's got great stuff LOL. Her standing C and her standing D is like one of the best anti-airs in the game. She's definitely top 10 in my book, and if not, she's definitely viable as hell.

As you're aware, i'm basing my comments on her playstyle based off of 2k3, XI, etc. I barely touched XIII let alone King in XIII because of how she plays. I pretty much all but gave up on even playing her after 2003 and don't even touch her anymore.

But, I'll give her a second chance when I get around to getting the game again.

So let's talk some Virtua Fighter, people! : ) I'm very VERY excited for this game. 2 weeks away, so hyped! I encourage everyone to please, PLEASE support and buy this game. I fear that if this game does not sell well, we probably will never see another Virtua Fighter product released stateside. It's only $15! If people can pay that amount for Skullgirls, people can definitely show VF some love.

Items as DLC? I'm all for it. While I didn't have a problem obtaining items and gold through constant fights (balloon trick ftw), I don't mind shelling out $5 to have well over 600-900 items to customize from. That means I can make Ulala Sarah, Red Ribbon Army Vanessa, and Rude of the Turks Jeffry right away. From what I've read too, the game will have lobbies. Dunno about spectator mode, but at least we'll all be able to play in a room together and can save/share replays of goofy matches or seriously good ones.

Spectator is in so I've heard. Could be wrong but I've heard it mentioned that it is on GFaqs and VFDC. Would kinda suck if there was no spec, then it'd be like the lame ass MvC3 vanilla lobbies.

I'm all for buying items too as I think it's actually for once a good marketing strategy for DLC and one I can respect. If they had released the game itself for $50-60 and then did the item crap on top of that, I'd be singing a different tune. But, at $15 for the game and $5 for specific char items and $45 in total for everything, it's not a bad deal at all.

Just again, hoping they have a compatibility pack coming to allow people who don't have all the items to be able to see other people's customizations. Otherwise it kinda takes away a lot of the fun.

But yeah, looking forward to rocking Brad again with some side action from Jacky.

Never did get all 100% items for Brad in Quest mode in VF5 but I did beat Quest Mode and used the balloon trick to get at least 80% of it all. Some of it was just way too rare and never showed up for me :(

Best thing I did with the balloon trick was to always have 7 losses or a number with ending the digit 7. Then I'd have a win record ending with 7. As you know, the balloon only nets you 10 matches of straight items (sometimes orbs). Best thing to do is play in the first arcade (since it's the easiest), win the first 9 matches and then quit on the 10th. Save the game, play another match and win, then go back to the quest mode screen and the see if the balloon popped up. If not, dashboard it and try again. 9 out of 10 times the balloon would reappear and I'd be stacking up items like crazy.

Don't forget some items are obtained through ranking up. So if you're not at the level of Conqueror, Destroyer, or Liberator then you're missing some items. Don't forget the random tourneys that pop up that offer items as a prize. Without counting the tournament prize matches, with the balloon trick and maxed out rank, you should have about 96/97% of your characters items.

*maximum brofist*

never knew you played that game. I loved it. FUA TOKO ROOTO

Obligatory VF5:FS discussion time.


Got the base game for $15 and bought customization pack 1 so far for another $15. Can't afford pack 2 at the moment but I'll get it next paycheck since Jacky was in 2 and Brad in 1 and i wanted both and figured I'd support Sega and VF.

Anyway, achievements are basically the easiest achievements I've ever seen in any game. Already killed 80% of them in the first half hour of playing. Only have 3 left to get which will be a breeze to get later on when i play again.

Game itself wise, I'm not a fan of the new soundtrack. I like the old one better. Switched it back to VF5 so I can have Aurora theme play properly and not that new crappy generic one.

Brad's as badass as ever though they changed up quite a few of his moves that I used to heavily used and now I either can't find them or I've noticed they're limited and altered now.

Before you used to be able to do a slip back into a fake out punch at will, now it seems you can only do it during a combo. I used to catch a lot of people off guard with the slip fake and hit them as I dodged back and they tried to push forward. Shame i can't use it anymore like that. A lot of Brad's gameplay with his slips and dodges makes him very tricky and that was part of it.

Also noticed i can't seem to do his double knee launchers anymore. It looks like they just combined it into a basic double knee combo kick. But it doesn't have the same impact, strength, setup or feel. Rather than slip into one powerful knee launch into another. Now he kinda just does a quick double knee combo on command without a slip. It's pretty basic and no where near as useful because you can't slip into it.

A lot of his BnB stuff works just like it did before but some of it changed a lot too. Some for the better, some not so much. I love the guy and really enjoy playing him still. But, it's gonna take some time to adapt to these changes because there was some solid stuff I used to heavily use in my game before that's just flat out gone now and I need time to adapt and find replacements.

Still a fun game overall. Shame the ps3 version seems to have the bigger crowd this time around though.

Still downloading customization pack 1 though. It's taking foreeeeeeeeeever. Can't wait to dick around with it though. Always loved the customization options in 5 and FS adds so much more. Customizing characters is one of my fav past times in any game.

I just got Street Fighter x Tekken today. I'm sticking with my forecasted team of Juri (My Street Fighter main) and Lili (My Tekken main) I'm enjoying it so far, but it takes a while to adjust to. No one is ever online though. Apparently the online community is next to non-existent.

SFxT? Why would we discuss that travesty in the competitive fighters thread?

Teasing you of course, but that is how I feel about that game. Such a flop and I had such high expectations.


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