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PostPosted: Mar 10, 2012 20:50 
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I don't get the trophy style for the Vita. It's a seperated list on the Vita you can't see on a PS3, but a Vita user can see both seperate listings for any given PSN account. BUT the overall trophy number counts to the same profile and the overall number appears on the PS3 even though the trophy icon/listing don't. It can't have been that hard to make a cross listing and put it in a PS3 update.

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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2012 0:14 
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lol My psp had cfw... I loved that thing like a child... too bad the screen broke... just like the other one i had >.<


just replace the screen... they're so easy to fix. just buy the screen on ebay (~$40) and do it yourself. the only tool you need is a small screwdriver.
I've replaced around 4 PSP screens, for myself and others, just find a tutorial online. It isn't bad at all.

still kinda hesitant doing it myself... i might just buy another used one...


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 Post subject: Re: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 11, 2012 2:19 
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I don't get the trophy style for the Vita. It's a seperated list on the Vita you can't see on a PS3, but a Vita user can see both seperate listings for any given PSN account. BUT the overall trophy number counts to the same profile and the overall number appears on the PS3 even though the trophy icon/listing don't. It can't have been that hard to make a cross listing and put it in a PS3 update.


Ya its little stuff like this thats got me scratching my head sometimes too. It shouldn't be that hard to make happen. We get all this new technology hardware and software wise yet they cant merge a simple trophy list? Apparently this is being worked on though. Hopefully along with the lack of support for PSP games.
Sony's systems always go through these growing pains. *sigh*

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 Post subject: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 11, 2012 2:37 
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Honestly, PS4 just needs to hit already so there can be a decent OS that has both the PSN and Vita features implemented seamlessly. The way the hardware is built really limits any big updates to the OS, something that is so necessary. It's sad when a portable feels that much more cohesive, despite the release gap.

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 Post subject: Re: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 11, 2012 10:42 
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RAM issue. Vita does have more RAM than any dedicated gaming platform out there right now. As for next gen, despite the fact that this gen has been the longest one yet, I can wait, given the fact that it's what I consider the most lacklustre gen overall. Outside of a handful of games, there hasn't been a gen that has me so apathetic about gaming such as this one and came close to hanging it up last year. The lingering corpse of yesteryear gaming with some single player games is what keeps me going basically.

Unlike the past two decades, I won't jump into next gen from the get go for sure. As far as eagerness, I suppose things can change by the end of the year. RE6 and TTT2 might serve as a good closure on a personal level.

I can't be alone here :neutral: I'm too old school perhaps with my gaming tastes, and still don't care much about online play. It just hasn't replaced the gap created by the death of arcades for me and it never will.


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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2012 19:47 
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Rombie wrote:
I don't get the trophy style for the Vita. It's a seperated list on the Vita you can't see on a PS3, but a Vita user can see both seperate listings for any given PSN account. BUT the overall trophy number counts to the same profile and the overall number appears on the PS3 even though the trophy icon/listing don't. It can't have been that hard to make a cross listing and put it in a PS3 update.


That's one of the things I noted about the vita in my review. It's complete lack of unity and integration. Sony still hasn't learned how to make a unified experience with their stuff. Everything is so seperated and stand alone. It's just really stupid. Like how friends list, party chat and group messaging are all seperate apps rather than being a unified feature that flows seamlessly together like on xbox. It's just incredibly dumb to have to open one 'app' to view your friends, open a seperate app just to be able to message said friends, and open a third app to voice chat with them.

Why can't those 3 be unified under one app? It makes no sense. And a lot of the Vita in general is like that. Which is my biggest gripe with it.

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 Post subject: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 12, 2012 7:32 
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Like SG and I said above, it's because they can't. What should be an easy OS update isn't because the console allocates all of its RAM, leaving none for any type of background applications. An OS update would merely be a face lift as none of the suggested features could be implemented. It really is only the PS4 that can fix this sadly. I always knew the PS3's lower amount of RAM and how it allocates it would be a problem down the line. It's simply not future proof. Sad because it's hampering an otherwise great idea with cross platform playability and even usability.

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 Post subject: Re: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 12, 2012 12:43 
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Like SG and I said above, it's because they can't. What should be an easy OS update isn't because the console allocates all of its RAM, leaving none for any type of background applications. An OS update would merely be a face lift as none of the suggested features could be implemented. It really is only the PS4 that can fix this sadly. I always knew the PS3's lower amount of RAM and how it allocates it would be a problem down the line. It's simply not future proof. Sad because it's hampering an otherwise great idea with cross platform playability and even usability.



I honestly didn't think of it like that until now. I realized why the ps3 couldn't have those features but it baffled me why the Vita suffered the same ones because obviously it was built from the ground up and should have been able to absolve those issues. But, it wasn't until just now that I realized it was designed to co-exist with the ps3 and PSN as is. And in order to do that, it had to be based on the ps3's core limitations in how it does everything, otherwise the two couldn't be integrated together.

That's really sad. The ps3 is pretty much limiting the Vita.

And what's even sadder is that the xbox360 came out before the PS3 yet still had the sense to future proof itself unlike the ps3. The xbox360 now is a completely different beast than the one that first released years ago. They didn't have party chat or even half of the stuff they have now. But, they had the sense enough at least to plan ahead for future updates to the system. Sony on the other hand was pretty limited in their vision of the PS3 apparently.

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 Post subject: Re: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 13, 2012 0:53 
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Not really. MS's software expertise helped develop the firmware into what it is now, and that's where their strength of "future proofing" shines. By contrast, Sony made the hardware more future proof with the standard HDD and BD drive, as well as including HDMI output from the get go. 20GB unit aside, WiFi too. Taking out PS2 BC was a cost measure and even that's back to an extent now.

MS slowly added those features with hardware revisions but the standard HDD, HDMI 1.3, and of course BD is a big advantage. Firmware wise, the PS3 is still by far the superior machine as far multimedia goes; audio options, upscaling, and running high bitrate vids etc. Not to mention that things have improved greatly for gaming since the first firmware sans the voice chat.


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 Post subject: Re: PlayStation Thread
PostPosted: Mar 13, 2012 3:46 
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Well if they had all the foresight for things like that, why did they allocate all of their RAM off the bat and leave no room for future updates? As well as have a terrible online interface that's completely segrated and limited?

Believe me, I'm not knocking the ps3 or comparing hardware specs. I like my ps3. Since my 360 started overheating, I've been forced to use my ps3 pretty much daily since christmas rather than my 360. Something I wouldn't have done otherwise because I really enjoyed my xbox(Not a fanboy, I just prefer XBL over PSN and all of my friends are on XBL, I rarely have anyone to play with on PSN). But, being forced to use the ps3 so often, I've come to appreciate it far more and cope with things that used to severely annoy me before, that now are tolerable even if inconvenient.

I just don't care for the online infastructure of PSN. I find it really poor in comparison to Xbox Live. That's why I was annoyed with the Vita because it has the same faults of segregation and inconvenience. Everything just feels so disjointed. That's why I just don't understand what was going through Sony's mind when they were working on PSN.

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