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PostPosted: Jan 25, 2012 19:18 
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A quick note to anyone picking up SCV, check your local Walmarts. Two stores actually put them on sale already in my area, but curiously just the CE.


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PostPosted: Jan 25, 2012 21:56 
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After playing UMVC3 for awhile, why does it feel like this game is even less balanced than it's predecessor?

I could at least keep up and outplay people with she-hulk and X23 and the like in the last one, but since she-hulk's nerfs, and trying new characters, all the ones I like are so lackluster!

Rocket Raccoon takes SO MUCH WORK to win with, and she-hulk just can't do crap against people like magneto, nova, hawkeye, etc etc.

And trish annoys me to no end. I roll my eyes everytime I see her picked now, it's like a 10-0 matchup for my team or something I swear.

Been running She-hulk, Rocket Raccoon, and Storm. My storm sucks tho...basically just use her as a clutch to spam supers for the chip damage. >_> Maybe if I find a third character with a good assist that will make me do better, but I just don't know.

I thought it was crap at first and not balanced right after coming from vanilla. But, now I'm far more used to Ultimate and find it pretty fair outside a few thing. I mained Tron in Vanilla but dropped her in Ultimate because she's just worthless. I'm not thrilled I had to drop a char I liked because she was made useless but it's the state of things.

She-Hulk is far from worthless but the thing is, your team doesn't have anyone on it that's particularily strong in all areas. Shulk and X-23 aren't really great at zoning and RR is limited and gets outplayed by the majority of other zoners in the game because of his limitations.

I know you may like the chars but, you're gonna need to drop at least one of them and pick up someone more viable to cover the areas they're failing in. Your team in general is just subpar as a whole because it doesn't have the tools to deal with a lot of the tactics in the game.

I was never a huge fan of Frank west or Doctor Doom, but, I dropped Tron for Frank because of his assist to help compliment my team. Then dropped Frank shortly after for Doom because Doom was a good anchor with a lot of versatility like Trish.

Now I love Doom and think he's amazing despite the fact I never really cared for him before.

You just need to find a char that will help your team and be fun for you to play.


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A quick note to anyone picking up SCV, check your local Walmarts. Two stores actually put them on sale already in my area, but curiously just the CE.

Don't count too highly on this. Walmart and Target etc. all have sales dates set in the register. So even if someone stupidly puts the game out early, it won't go through on the register. The sale won't be allowed without a store manager override. That means the associate cannot do anything about it without getting the store manager involved and the store manager is not going to take the $200,000 fine that would accompany the sale just to appease 'customer satisfaction'.

Only time it ever works is when you get a VERY ignorant manager who doesn't understand about the fine and just lets it go through not really thinking much of it. But, it's very very very unlikely you'll get that lucky.

Just a heads up.

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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2012 3:04 
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I started toying with strider instead of storm and his silly teleport assist seems to help rr and she-hulk get in, what do you think of this ikari? Good idea?

He's pretty simple to use too, and his level 3 drones with xfactor is soooo BS.

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I don't really know what to tell you, other than to learn stuff that that is proven to be overpowered.
I don't like using Wesker, but his assist is good and his ability as an anchor with XF3 is stupid, so he's found a place on one of my teams.

It's marvel man, use and abuse the broken shit, or prepare to put in a lot of work with the characters you like, especially if your fundamentals aren't solid. I know the feeling; I don't like dropping characters but sometimes when they don't work out, they don't work out.

Trish... yeah she's really underrated. She has great matchups against the 'top' characters, so I think she's a candidate for top 10. With the proper assists/setups she messes up Wesker, Spencer, Doom and Nova, to name a few. Most of the characters that CAN fight her have to use meter

I still don't get why they nerfed She Hulk the way they did. I hate fighting against her but they at least could have left her slide alone; that move is straight garbs now. But she's not terrible, just not great anymore.

MY suggestion is to watch this video, since it covers useful stuff for some of the characters you use.



Thanks alot V I appreciate it! I will watch that vid, btw think we could play sometime? We haven't in ages and maybe you could give some criticism.

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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2012 22:54 
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IkariWarriorKH wrote:
Just a heads up.


Appreciate it. Though I did pick up the two copies on display for a couple of friends already (not getting the game myself). My local store got it early too alongside FFXIII 2 etc (though he only sells them early to long timers who keep it on the down low).


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If any1 hadn't seen it yet.

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PostPosted: Jan 27, 2012 21:56 
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Lol the classic box art mega man was already confirmed awhile ago to be one of the secret chars for the vita version but yeah. Pretty derpy.

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I started toying with strider instead of storm and his silly teleport assist seems to help rr and she-hulk get in, what do you think of this ikari? Good idea?

He's pretty simple to use too, and his level 3 drones with xfactor is soooo BS.


Strider pretty much relies on his damn Vajra and his ourboros to win. He's not that great outside of those two things but, they're two things that are incredibly powerful that obviously compliment a team well. Especially that damn Vajra assist should help you get in as you mentioned, easier with your chars. It's definitely a nuisance for keep away Trish's who like to stay in the air, and other keep away chars.

And xfactored ourborus is a pain in the balls to deal with simply because there's very few options in the game to deal with it. It's sorta like dealing with level 3 xfactor dark phoenix mashing high and low L's on you, only push block doesn't really help against ouroboros.

So who are you running then? Shulk/X23/Strider, Shulk/Rocket/Strider, or X23/Rocket/Strider?

Also, if you like all those chars, try making multiple teams. Instead of Shulk/23/Rocket on one team, divide it up onto 2-3 seperate teams (3 reserve units, take advantage) that allow you to play your chars at your leisure and have fun with them but also give them the proper help they need from another char like strider etc.

That's what I do. I love using MODOK, and I also like to dabble with phoenix but neither of them is on my A team. I have a B and a C team that are setup to compliment MODOK and Phoenix respectively rather than just tack them on. Like my phoenix team has morrigan with dark harmonizer on it even though I don't really care at all about morrigan, but, her dark harmonizer helps phoenix keep bars for dark phoenix which is a pain in the ass to do in ultimate. And Morrigan's S soul fist (especially in tune with her mirror hyper) can help steal bars from other teams as well.

And my MODOK team has Doom with hidden missile assist instead of molecular shield because Modok covers ground easy and doesn't need doom doing it as well. So missiles cover air for him. It's the reverse of what I do with Trish/Doom.

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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2012 7:19 
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She-hulk/RR/Strider is main now, X23/Hsien Ko/RR is sub.

Sub team sucks and is more for fun than anything.

Thanks for all the helpful advice and such. Strider does feel like one huge gimmick honestly but it's a good gimmick so lol.

Maybe can replace him with someone later but he works for now

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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2012 19:18 
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That X-23/HsienKo/Rocket team is just as bad as the Shulk/23/rocket team lol.

Should make a 23/rocket/?? team and a HsienKo/Any of your 3/??? team as a C team. Like I said, 3 reserve units, make use of em. Play all your chars you like, just not on the same team lol.

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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2012 23:31 
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But I have my 3rd slot for Chris/Zero/Phoenix >:

I used that team since the original, but I kinda suck with all of them now (cept phoenix cos she's got easy combos). So rusty. XD

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PostPosted: Jan 29, 2012 9:16 
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Hopefully you play Chris as a good battery then because it's really hard to build meter for dark phoenix in Ultimate. Meter building in general is much slower and added in with all the meter draining moves and tactics now in the game, it's not easy to run phoenix without a good battery.

In any event, I started experimenting with a new build just to see how it faired.

Ran Trish Peekaboo, Dorm Purification and Doom Missiles tonight for like 10 matches on ranked. I noticed missiles even with Trish in the air was helping keep a lot of the opposition back and made teleport spammers have a harder time.

But, overall, I was losing far more often with missiles than I was with molecular shield assist. It's like, missiles always helped in the beginning and I would dominate the first half of the match. Then somewhere in the middle it's like things would always go south because obviously they'd figure out how to deal with it by then and either punish doom or manage to grab trish and doom at the same time and kill them both with an combo cancel into xfactor combo into hyper.

As much as missiles helps deal with teleporters and keeps people back at times, it just doesn't cover the same ground that shield was doing for me. Shield let me be in the air and cover air with Trish's round trip, low voltage and traps while shield covered the ground. This often lead to catching the opponent on the ground in shield, trying to do something while i was in the air, canceling hypers on them, or just plain dealing chip damage constantly over time which really helps.

Missiles with Trish in the air pretty much leaves the ground uncovered and dorm's purification is mostly an air coverage too so there's really nothing hitting ground long range. And missiles is way easier to punish, and the missiles get cancelled if he gets hit, and you can actively avoid the missiles by simply moving forward constantly.

I have mixed feelings about it. Gonna experiment with it further since again, it definitely seemed to help deal with stupid Dante teleport spammers and even helped a bit against strider's vajra, but, I need to rework my strategy a bit or something because I was losing heavy tonight with it regardless, which isn't usually the case when I run shield.

I had a pretty decent win/loss record on psn while running shield. I'd pretty much win 5-7 matches, lose 2-3 a night. Something around there. With missiles, it was vice versa tonight. Have to experiment further, see what happens.

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