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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 17:25 
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I doubt Umbrella was in on it. Spencer had his own plans and goals. Becoming a patsy for the GPC just to demonize the U.S. Government really doesn't make any semblance of sense considering Spencer's ultimate goal as well as the fact the U.S. Government didn't take any blame for the RC incident, it was all put on Umbrella.

You have some nice theories, but, I think you're going a bit too overboard and making it far more complicated and 'out there' than it needs to be just for the sake of it. The simplest theory is usually the best and likely correct one.


Spencer wasn't in total control over Umbrella, at least not in later years. You have to remember that Spencer's goals differed from those of the company. Umbrella sought profit, Spencer was focused on far more loftier ambitions, like making himself a god. He even states in his notebook that the only people to be hurt by Umbrella's downfall would be its employees, he didn't give a shit about Umbrella. They were simply a means to an end, a way for him to effectively aid and fund his own research. I mean, Spencer himself went into hiding and distanced himself from Umbrella, leaving it in the hands of Sergei (himself a patsy for Spencer, funnily enough). Granted, this didn't work and he became a wanted fugitive.

As for what happened with Raccoon City, if you look at Degeneration, the U.S. government's reputation was damaged by the incident, at least from their handling of the situation and their decision to use a nuclear warhead to destroy the city. Do you think that would look good for the U.S. government? Detonating a nuke on American soil and killing thousands of American civilians? That went in the favour of the GPC at least.

And here's another thing, Senator Ron Davis? This man had shares in WilPharma, AND was on the committee who approved the bombing on Raccoon City. Imagine if that asshole was working in the interests of the GPC, using his clout to force the U.S. government into making a decision that would have dire consequences for them?

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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 17:32 
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Spencer was in control of Umbrella though. That kinda was the point. He had Marcus Assassinated and the Ashford's were already in ruin which is why Alexander started the Code Veronica project in the first place to help regain the Ashford name and gain back power in Umbrella that they had lost to Spencer.

Spencer's goal all along was the same, he just used Ashford and Marcus to help him start the company and fund it and get his ideas in motion. Once that was taken care of, he pretty much had them taken care of so he'd get control of Umbrella for himself.

Also, it's been retconn'd that there was no nuclear strike on RC. It was a missile strike. The only material to show a nuke was in RE3's ending, but, that's been retcon'd to a multiple missile bombing strike in all subsequent material.

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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 17:36 
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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 17:53 
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Also, it's been retconn'd that there was no nuclear strike on RC. It was a missile strike. The only material to show a nuke was in RE3's ending, but, that's been retcon'd to a multiple missile bombing strike in all subsequent material.


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No it was Nuclear attack. Degenerations prove that.


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A19. As of yet, it is unclear if this new type of bomb is one like a thermobraic bomb with the highest destructive power next to a nuclear weapon, but radioactive contamination seems to be extremely low. In this story, it can be said that it is equal to the Rail Canon as a strictly confidential weapon of the U.S. Army.


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Raccoon City

A mid-sized industrial town located in the American Midwest.
It achieved rapid development advanced by the giant pharmaceutical company "Umbrella", but almost all citizens turned into zombies in the 1998 "biohazard" t-Virus leak accident which Umbrella caused.
Very few people including a city police Special Forces S.T.A.R.S. member, a rookie policeman who just arrived at his post, a Special Forces member dispatched by Umbrella and a small number of ordinary citizens took action for a situation breakthrough, *however there was no degree of anyone to be able to handle the situation anymore.
The U.S. Government, which took the situation seriously, carried out the "Sterilization Operation" with a new-type bomb.
With this strategy the virus was exterminated together with the infected citizens, and the city name was wiped off the map.


The "nuclear missile" story was what the U.S. Government officially said as an excuse to seal off the area.

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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 18:44 
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^Then why does all subsequent material show literal multiple missiles being launched on the city much like the bombing at the end of 28 Weeks later?

Not saying your wrong. Just saying first they show a nuke hit in re3, then a missile bombing on the city in Outbreak and DSC and now it's a 'new' type of bomb?

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PostPosted: Feb 06, 2012 18:59 
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IkariWarriorKH wrote:
^Then why does all subsequent material show literal multiple missiles being launched on the city much like the bombing at the end of 28 Weeks later?

Not saying your wrong. Just saying first they show a nuke hit in re3, then a missile bombing on the city in Outbreak and DSC and now it's a 'new' type of bomb?


Outbreak and Chronicles are the only ones which show the multiple missiles, and the usage in Chronicles is just a bunch of random ass footage thrown in to look fancy.

The missile in BH3 is not a nuke, never was. It has never been a nuclear missile in the series. The interview which states it is a top-secret new thermobaric bomb is with Yasuhisa Kawamura, the scenario writer of BH3.

The only real exception is Outbreak and we don't have an explanation for that yet.

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Wow this thread makes my head hurt, not your guys fault but this canon has become a total disaster. i used to care when it made a bit of sense but there is way to much crap that has messed it up.

As for Revelations, the story seems like a throw away. Take away Jill and Chris and it is just a story with a bunch of new characters, none of which will probably have any impact at all in the future. The only thing interesting is if Jessica is working with Ada. Ada is the ONLY interesting storyline thread left in the series, they better not screw it up. (Unless Wesker clones come into play, which would be awesome)


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As I suspected before the game was released, Revelations is essentially Degeneration 2.0. The returning characters are mainly there for star power and little else, but the real focus of the story is on all of the new characters.

Anyway, one thing I'm not entirely clear about is why exactly the BSAA had to be reformed in the first place. It's just kind of a throwaway line at the end of the game.

Is it because the FBC had been dissolved and someone else had to pick up the slack? Or was it to save face after O'Brian's mess of a plan? Maybe a bit of both?


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Archelon wrote:
As I suspected before the game was released, Revelations is essentially Degeneration 2.0. The returning characters are mainly there for star power and little else, but the real focus of the story is on all of the new characters.

Anyway, one thing I'm not entirely clear about is why exactly the BSAA had to be reformed in the first place. It's just kind of a throwaway line at the end of the game.

Is it because the FBC had been dissolved and someone else had to pick up the slack? Or was it to save face after O'Brian's mess of a plan? Maybe a bit of both?


It was to make it seem like the story accomplished something in the storyline.


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I basically wrote an editorial about the failures of the storyline. I know everyone is focused on this board so I want to link to it.


http://www.biohaze.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6522


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