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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 22, 2011 16:06 
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I was reading in to him and it made me think. Nicholai was a "Monitor" in the UBCS for Umbrella, meaning he was in Racoon City exclusively for research data. Then he ends up killing all of the other Monitors so that he can be the only one with the research. Thats the thing, do you think theres a possibility that he might have been working for "The Organization"? Gathering data for them, and killing all the others so Umbrella would turn up empty handed? Or was it really just him looking to be in high regards to Umbrella.


Interesting quote.
This is my thinkin. Nah he was just there for on his own to be recognized by Umbrella by killing the other "Monitors" and be the only one who can give the Data of the zombies and B.O.W.s He tells Jill so during the helicoper fight.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 9:30 
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I count Nicholai as alive because of Survivor's Report On The Destruction of Raccoon City.
It will be impossible for Nicholai to write the October 6 entry if he was dead.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 10:39 
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Davi Redfield wrote:
I count Nicholai as alive because of Survivor's Report On The Destruction of Raccoon City.
It will be impossible for Nicholai to write the October 6 entry if he was dead.


He didn't write the October 6 entry. An Umbrella B.O.W. Development Staff wrote it.

One of many mistakes in the localized English versions.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 11:06 
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News Bot wrote:
Davi Redfield wrote:
I count Nicholai as alive because of Survivor's Report On The Destruction of Raccoon City.
It will be impossible for Nicholai to write the October 6 entry if he was dead.


He didn't write the October 6 entry. An Umbrella B.O.W. Development Staff wrote it.

One of many mistakes in the localized English versions.


You know, in the abscence of means to previously know this, I was taking the file as true. And it did me no harm to do so, as to very many people that played Survivor and read it.

Besides, Archives states that Nicholai gets out the city via helicopter, leaving Jill and Carlos to be killed by the sterilization operation. A dead can't handle a helicopter.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 12:41 
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Davi Redfield wrote:
News Bot wrote:
Davi Redfield wrote:
I count Nicholai as alive because of Survivor's Report On The Destruction of Raccoon City.
It will be impossible for Nicholai to write the October 6 entry if he was dead.


He didn't write the October 6 entry. An Umbrella B.O.W. Development Staff wrote it.

One of many mistakes in the localized English versions.


You know, in the abscence of means to previously know this, I was taking the file as true. And it did me no harm to do so, as to very many people that played Survivor and read it.

Besides, Archives states that Nicholai gets out the city via helicopter, leaving Jill and Carlos to be killed by the sterilization operation. A dead can't handle a helicopter.


No harm except being wrong. :P The Archives story sections also say at the very end that the events are different depending on the player's actions, so again, his death is still ambiguous.

Besides, I already gave the reason why he survived. He was the last Monitor, and only person able to get the data back to Umbrella that allowed them to develop some of the B.O.W.s seen in CODE:Veronica such as the Gulp Worm and Black Widow. Outside of this, there is no definitive on his survival.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 12:58 
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NB, are you aware that if you take what is in the American version of the game, I'm not wrong, right?
I'm pretty aware of your focus on original - japanese - source, but this isn't avaliable for most of the players. Still, I can see no harm in the Survivor file. The particularities of the file's content doesn't fit to me like was written by an "Umbrella B.O.W. Development Staff". Unless this person was in Raccoon.

Your point about the data can pretty well make the survival of Nicholai obvious through another Survivor file; that file with instructions of how to deal with B.O.W.s seen in Raccoon City, don't you agree?

Anyway, are you saying that the report's previous entries were written by Nicholai and just the last isn't, or Nicholai hasn't written any entry at all?

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Sep 30, 2011 22:23 
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The American versions of the games are mostly wrong about a lot of things. By extension, using them as the basis for the story makes the person wrong, and is the reason why the series has such a bad reputation on its plot. It's not that the story was written badly, just that a lot of things are messed up by careless translators.

And yes, the first two entries are written by Nicholai, the last one is not.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
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And yes, the first two entries are written by Nicholai, the last one is not.

I don't know if I blame the japanese writers for not making Nicholai write the three entries, or the english translators, for changing the third author to Nicholai as well (maybe they just thought "what the hell??" by seeing the japanese file, and "tried to correct that". :roll: ).

What a mess.

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 Post subject: Re: Nicholai
PostPosted: Oct 01, 2011 9:17 
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I will never forgive them for pointlessly adding in that Wesker injected himself with the t-virus in his file in BHDC, even though there is no mention of it in general in the original Japanese text.

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PostPosted: Oct 25, 2011 13:26 
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My brain hurts >.< hes dead hes alive hes dead hes alive. we'll find out in ORC whether hes dead or alive okay guys

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